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Ep.9 The Saturday Night Ghost Club By Craig Davidson
Picture a summer filled with ghostly tales, eccentric relatives, and the kind of nostalgia that brings back all the feels of our own childhood adventures. That's what we're unpacking as Kylee, Susie, and our special guest, Justin—Kylee's husband—gather around the mic to chat about Craig Davidson's "The Saturday Night Ghost Club." We kick things off by comparing the book's youthful vibes to "Stranger Things," while also delving into its more weighty themes. Listen as Justin shares his fresh take after finishing the book, and we chew over the surprising blend of medical insights and storytelling that shapes Jake's character.
Our journey leads us to Uncle Calvin's wacky occultorium—a place where ghost stories are as common as the bizarre leads on hauntings he collects via his "bat phone." We share a touching moment featuring Billy Yellow Bird, a young boy longing to connect with his late grandmother, and how Uncle Calvin's kindness shines through these whimsical adventures. We explore the bonds between Jake and his friends, delving into his budding friendship with Billy and his charming crush on Billy's sister, Dove. Together, they navigate the innocent yet complex terrain of growing up amid ghost stories and carefree escapades.
The episode takes a chilling turn with tales like the Screaming Tunnel, where we uncover more about Uncle Calvin's emotional layers and his passion for storytelling. As we laugh our way through playful fan casting sessions, imagining the perfect actors to bring these vibrant characters to life, we reflect on the fantastical and heartfelt elements that make this story resonate. Throughout it all, the warmth and wisdom of Uncle Calvin leave an indelible mark on Jake's life, making "The Saturday Night Ghost Club" a tale of nostalgia, mystery, and the irresistible charm of childhood.
Editing done by Connor Luther @clfilms.co
Music by @thundercatlouis
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Okay, hello everyone, and welcome to another story time with when Girls Talk Books. I'm Kylie, I'm Susie and today we have a guest. You've all heard about him, the J who defies all stereotypes. That's right, my husband, justin, you heard it here first.
Speaker 2:Yes, hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:So we roped him into today's episode. Oh, we also have a guest.
Speaker 2:Me and my boy.
Speaker 1:Your boy. We didn't name him, that's all right.
Speaker 2:He doesn't need to be named.
Speaker 3:He can be Mr Bones, mr Bones, sure, he can be Mr Bones, mr Bones Sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we'll go with that. Yeah, anywho, we have Justin and Mr Bones.
Speaker 2:We are a duo.
Speaker 1:He was very shocked by the book. Apparently, yes, he just finished.
Speaker 2:He's got a lot of opinions, just finished before we started recording and has not recovered yet.
Speaker 1:Conveniently, two people in this area finished the book today. We won't say who no and it wasn't me okay, we won't. It wasn't me.
Speaker 3:We won't say who.
Speaker 1:Okay, we're going to get into it. So this episode we're going to do the Saturday Night Ghost Club and this is by Craig Davidson.
Speaker 2:So there's no sex in this book.
Speaker 1:There is none of that, yeah if you're looking for smut in here. I would almost say this is ya, yes I yes, this is more ya, than the last book we read. I don't even know if I'd say ya, I would say it's a heavy topic ya I guess that's true.
Speaker 2:I thought it felt very yeah, light and like something you'd read in school.
Speaker 3:oh yeah, I'm like I would definitely have seen that in our middle school library, but it has some pretty heavy topics, that's the only thing yeah 100%, which I guess some of the books you read in school do as well.
Speaker 2:Right, that's kind of like the point it's also, just like the last 10% for the most part.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:At least we see from the perspective of just kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a 12-year-old, yeah, having a 12-year-old summer.
Speaker 3:Like you said, it was like Stranger Things kind of story. Yes, this book really gave me a lot of Stranger Things vibes, like I was having yeah, we're having some Stranger Things, I agree. Please do, it's incredible.
Speaker 2:Incredible. So my mom tells me constantly yeah, it's yep.
Speaker 3:It's a goodie. Yeah, I can't. If I start, I won't be able to start.
Speaker 1:Maybe in 30 years we'll start it when we have free time again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, true.
Speaker 1:So let's just get into it. We have Jake, who From State Farm, Sure yes of course Probably.
Speaker 2:Maybe it happens in the 80s, so maybe. Well, he's a neurosurgeon as an adult, so probably not Jake from State Farm.
Speaker 3:We don't know what Jake from State Farm does on the side. Probably not. I'm sorry, I didn't even brought this up. I'm sorry. Back to the point Go get the book going.
Speaker 2:No, let's keep going down this. This feels important.
Speaker 1:But it actually With, like Jake, as an adult. He's a neurosurgeon and he's talking about like the consistency of the brain and how he operates. And he has like a suction thing.
Speaker 2:A lot of parts of this book.
Speaker 3:I was just thinking about it too much and I'm like hmm, now my head hurts.
Speaker 1:I don't like this, but like one thing I thought was crazy didn't know that, didn't know the brain was like mush, like toothpaste, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I had no idea the fork out. I thought I had a nice firm jello bowl up here. But nay, nay.
Speaker 1:And then, like 90% of the book, I was like I don't care about your job, I don't care that you're a neurosurgeon. Why is?
Speaker 3:all this getting pieced together. Sorry, I think that you really care about what they do.
Speaker 1:I know you're important. If, if you were a neurosurgeon, you would not shut up. I imagine anybody who pays that much money and goes through that much schooling probably wants everyone to know how much they know about it hi, I'm a brain surgeon, let me tell you about the consistency of your brain that's like the introduction to the book and it's kind of like who cares anyway, the last book that we read had a lot of fluff filler talking about basketball and I was like, oh yeah, like who cares?
Speaker 2:Anyway, I agree, the last book that we read had a lot of like just kind of like fluff filler talking about basketball.
Speaker 1:And then I was like oh yeah that's going to be interesting.
Speaker 2:You know the cross-up, Sure okay, you know whatever behind, so that was kind of cool. Same concept. This had the exact same situation, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I was also like I don't care. I felt like it all made sense. I felt like it all made sense.
Speaker 3:Yes, I felt like it made sense to think that he was saying one thing all tied together, so like why he had that job also. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh-huh.
Speaker 3:Like that's so sweet.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Jake in the book for the most part, is a kid, 12 years old, and he has his uncle Calvin, who's a very eccentric uncle. He's a character, he's a character. He's also a very like pure soul.
Speaker 2:Yes, he feels very innocent and childlike.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but a very kooky guy and we start with like a slug in Jake's closet. That was so weird.
Speaker 2:A shape-shifting slug. There's like a monster in his closet.
Speaker 1:Monster in his closet, but it's a shape-shifting slug Right specifically monster in his closet. Monster in his closet, but it's a shape-shifting slot right specifically.
Speaker 2:Yeah and uncle calvin's like oh yes, of course, some kind of slurper sounds like a classic case of one of these.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so he like brings this powder and makes like a keyhole thing and it's like it's a trap yeah and, uh, you can't touch it, and if you touch it it's not gonna work and you can't open the closet. And then you touch it, it's not going to work and you can't open the closet. And then he wakes up the next morning and there's like this black rock in place of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sitting where the trap was. Oh my, gosh it worked, he caught it.
Speaker 1:He caught it, yeah.
Speaker 2:Old Uncle Calvin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he's kind of. And Jake says he's like the best uncle that a kid would want best uncle that a kid would want. He's like the uncle that a kid would think is so cool and he does all this stuff. Jake is not very popular at school. Yes.
Speaker 2:Relatable Quite. Yeah, I was going to say that.
Speaker 1:Sure, but particularly there's Percy and Terry who kind of antagonize him and pick on him.
Speaker 2:Yes, he seems to be quite a loser, even Okay, well, no, that's what he says. He sits at recess and he just hides from everyone and waits for the day to be over. It's very sad and he dreads going to school.
Speaker 1:Yes, he makes friends during the summer, and then, when school starts and his friends see that nobody at school likes him and they don't want to be his friend anymore, and that's so sad it's very sad, yes he's just kind of a sad young man but percy used to be his friend until he he said percy found cooler friends right, exactly so now he doesn't want to hang out with me, but percy and terry end up throwing a firecracker at his face because like you do when you're a kid. Exactly. It explodes in his face and then this girl comes up behind him with a rock and, like, hits him in the head with a rock.
Speaker 2:Percy the bully.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and stands up for him and is, like you know, bad-mouthing him and then, kind of like, takes off and leaves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's this cool chick with a skateboard on her shoulder, and that chick was a skateboard. Sorry.
Speaker 1:Met your mother, and at first At first I thought she hit him over the head with the skateboard and I was like I know, I was like yeah, okay, yeah, which it was rock, which still is pretty cool. But, so he gets kind of like a touristy summer type town and it's a gift shop with just everything you could possibly imagine an occultorium would be, it's all cool ghost scanners and all kinds of cool stuff to you know there was something about the back storage room with some kind of like paw.
Speaker 2:Then there'd be some other like tooth of this and that yeah, yeah, like wild, yeah, like stuff to make potions and witchcraft stuff and stuff to kill vampires.
Speaker 3:Some kind of special Moroccan, this and that, yes, all kinds of like kind of monster hunter and repellent paraphernalia.
Speaker 1:And his slogan is investigating the dark cubbyhole of otherworldly experience. Dot dot dot, and he insisted that dot dot dot was in there.
Speaker 2:It's very mysterious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it just has all kinds of like spell books, witchy things, teas, potions, ingredients.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I feel like we would have a freaking heyday on that store.
Speaker 2:If we could go somewhere, you two would be real comfortable. What do you?
Speaker 1:mean by that we're comfortable has he figured?
Speaker 3:out that I'm a she-devil now the geek is up we gotta move. I gotta kickstart my broom home tonight. Dang this, becky's getting old. The geek is up. We gotta move. I gotta kickstart my broom home tonight.
Speaker 1:Dang this. Becky's getting old. But also in the occultorium there's a bat phone that's what he calls it. And one day Jake ends up sneaking a look at his uncle's notebook where he writes down all of the things that he hears over the bat phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people call him to give him leads on hauntings and ghost sightings and happenings.
Speaker 1:Yeah, news from the Watcher. There's also other people that are calling this, which I thought was kind of an interesting thing, and they all have names.
Speaker 2:They have a little network yeah a network of people.
Speaker 1:News from the Watcher. Venomous snakes lurk in the ball pits at fast food restaurants, so it's like a small town Facebook page.
Speaker 2:Basically exactly that. Yes, the neighborhood watch, yeah.
Speaker 1:So and so locals yes, celebrity tattle, cher Bono. Yes, uh, celebrity title cherubano has bottom rib surgery. Uh, surgically removed to look more subtle. Like huh, just like the most random thing it's like crazy conspiracy stuff he goes on about a popular uh fast food chicken uh restaurant that's no longer going to be able to use chicken in their title because they made these uh, oh, I remember what part you were talking about.
Speaker 3:They made these creatures that are just like chicken breast or chicken wings, and they had no heads and they just yeah they were like grown artificial chickens, which is like what they're all saying about Chick-fil-A right now, basically.
Speaker 2:Not too far off of reality. I'm old enough to remember when Subway had to change their bread ingredients because a court deemed that they couldn't legally call it bread.
Speaker 3:Because of all the shit they were saying. So this is one ingredient I knew I didn't like Subway.
Speaker 2:Uncle Calvin wasn't too far off on that one.
Speaker 1:I'm not a big Subway gal. Hold on their footlong. Cookie. I I'll take that with the honey mustard have that anytime, but anyway. So back to the occult oriam. Um, a kid comes in whose name is billy yellow bird and his set soon died, set soon a, or set, I think it's Setsune.
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 1:Died, which is his grandmother, so he comes in to like do a seance, essentially to talk to his grandma.
Speaker 1:And he's like oh well, I don't do those, but I have this tea that you could have and it'll open up, like your brain while you sleep, so that way you can talk. Yeah, so you'll have a dream where you can interact with her or something. Yeah, and essentially billy is very worried because they had to move, or they moved from where they were originally from and he was worried that she wouldn't be able to rest peacefully because they can't move her body, um, to where they were before and she couldn't be by the river there and and the trees and kind of like her home. Essentially they couldn't move her there. So he wanted to talk to her about it. So he just kind of has a lot of unresolved.
Speaker 3:That's a lot sitting on the shoulders of a little one. He's 12.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 12-year-old, yeah, wow, yeah, Billy seemed like a sensitive.
Speaker 1:He was going to get this tea um, but he didn't have any money, and so uncle calvin's like yeah, he comes into the store looking to buy something to talk to his grandma and then he goes oh, I don't have any money.
Speaker 2:He's 12. He's a creepy 12 year old, but uncle calvin gives it to him for free.
Speaker 1:Yes, the first elixirs on the house. Yes, oh my god, because he's just such a sweet, the sweetest man of all time. And I know you guys already know this Uncle Calvin, during this thing I adored and I just kind of had a feeling I was going to be sad.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the warmth when it keeps going. I'm like he's so wholesome.
Speaker 2:Something fucking awful happened. He seemed really perfect.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he has to go get the tea bags and they're in the basement. So then he goes down to the basement and he's like, oh, oh, I found something. And he ends up finding the spirit phone. And the spirit phone is really just a record player with one of those speakers that come out of it, but he's put like a kid's toy. What do they call it?
Speaker 2:Speak and spell.
Speaker 1:A speak and spell on top of it. But he's put like a kid's toy. What do they call it? Speak and spell. A speak and spell on top of it to like say stuff. I love that. You both knew what that was. I was like a what?
Speaker 2:I don't really know what it is.
Speaker 1:It's like a round thing and then you like swing it to the thing and it'll be like a cow.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry that I didn't have to spell it out that.
Speaker 2:Well, I see, okay, I was like I've heard of this thing, I don't know.
Speaker 1:You had toys.
Speaker 3:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:I just had rocks. That was my toys, but anyway.
Speaker 2:You had toys. You just liked the rocks, that's true, my preference was more like a playhouse.
Speaker 1:And I had my coffee shop with my strainer and my dirt and I was like busy day.
Speaker 3:Got to head to the office.
Speaker 1:It's just been crazy today.
Speaker 3:We're going to tell it hours.
Speaker 1:In the middle of nowhere and the playhouse was back in a blackberry bush.
Speaker 3:Like if we drove by it as adults we'd be like that looks fucking horrifying.
Speaker 1:I'm so bad Sitting there in like a blackberry bush, like if we don't buy it as adults it'd be like that looks fucking horrible sitting there anyway. Anyway. So the spirit phone, it like talks also and he was like, oh, this is like a magical thing and einstein actually made the first spirit phone and he's like all into it. And one thing is Jake kind of notices like his uncle has like this weird glimmer in his eye which he's like that's a little weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it kind of seems like when he really dives into explaining his mechanisms and methods and stuff. Yeah, he just has this childlike exuberance and innocence and love of things that he talks about. He's quite a storyteller. Yeah, he's just like amazing with the kids.
Speaker 1:He's a little bit like Papa Fred.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Justin's grandpa.
Speaker 3:He's a little bit like Someone like my grandpa, who is like the coolest guy ever Sprinkle guy and my uncle yeah, like exactly together exactly very much if this book was like not that it shouldn't be like super popular, but if it was like really popular, I would be pushing my uncle be like I've got an idea for halloween for you.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Especially like his hair.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, that's a weird thing to do. For real it's just perfect.
Speaker 1:Anyway, so the spirit phone he essentially is like to Billy, would you like to try and contact your grandma with it? And he's like deal which Billy's like down for anything. It feels, like through the entire book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Billy's very agreeable. You want to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to do that yeah, I. Want to do that cool, great, um. But so he does and the thing kind of like starts short circuiting because it's just this old rickety bit of a hunk of junk yeah, but it like freaks them out or the spirit's energy was just so strong.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 2:If you're a 12 year old, you're like what?
Speaker 1:He's kind of cooking. Really, though, imagine you're actually 12 and you're in this situation. I would have walked out of there and we would not be doing it the man down the street talks to dead people, literally. I'm big on, I don't mess with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he gave me a free elixir and then tried to talk to my dead grandma. Can you imagine?
Speaker 1:yes, do you know where we're from? Yes, um, pretty sure I saw one of those on facebook. I'm right here, but so it kind of freaks him out and then he's like, um well, we should break into the funeral home so you can see your grandma.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah this was a bus, so maybe we'll just break into the funeral so you can see your dead body and say bye, that way, which it was like I don't think billy was really trying to like say bye, he just wanted to like make sure she was okay, I guess, kind of sort of.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I think he wanted more, yeah, to hear something from her. Yeah, like hear her say that it was alright, he was wrestling.
Speaker 3:So much with like the once you're dead, you're gone. Yeah, he was just like can I just cash in one more, yeah?
Speaker 2:He wanted to, yeah, hear that she was like comfortable and okay.
Speaker 3:Go ahead, sweetie, don't worry about it. I'm good over here in the afterlife. Right, it's so sad. Yeah, just really recently moved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so he wanted to make sure that she wasn't like sad about that.
Speaker 1:Sad about like not being where they're from which, like?
Speaker 1:you said I'm sure was, yeah, just a kid who had a close family member die and was like surely I get one more time something yeah, yeah, yes, but uncle calvin, trying to be nice and let him down accommodating it says well, but we'll still go say goodbye to her but like it's almost not even like he's just doing it for billy it's he wholeheartedly believes the things that he says yeah, and at the beginning I wasn't really sure if uncle calvin was just like a really cool like super cool uncle, and he just know that this is like a cool kids thing of like ghost stories and stuff.
Speaker 2:So he was like really into it. But then, yeah, not after not very long, it's like, okay, no, this guy's just like super into this yeah, oh yeah exactly no, this is your bag.
Speaker 1:So they break into the funeral home. The undertaker is that what they call him.
Speaker 2:I think so, not the wrestler.
Speaker 1:Right, in case anyone was confused on this channel. For sure, yeah, but they were like he's creepy and da, da, da, da da and that's where he takes all the bodies. Yeah, obviously she has to be there. They're in kind of like a small town where he takes all the bodies. Yeah, obviously she has to be there.
Speaker 2:They're in kind of like a small town. It seemed like, yeah, they're in like a two or three town, but yeah. So, like everybody in town knows the guy who buries all the bodies and does a lot of stuff. So of course, as a 12-year-old, they're like that guy hangs out with dead people all day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's freaky, yeah, and he's like surely this isn't her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they pop the coffin open and he goes.
Speaker 1:Oops, wrong one. Just some deer, let's try again.
Speaker 3:And also like imagine like you're in an embalming, you're in the funeral chapel in the bottom of it and there's a little door In the middle of the night they're breaking into the buildings.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's Brenda, what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, mr Winter, what Literally. Yeah, mr Winter, what the hell. And it's a small town. Yeah, I know these people, yes, literally. Like oh no, that's the guy two streets down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll tell. Sorry, gary.
Speaker 1:They're like in drawers still.
Speaker 2:It's always freaked me out, they're naked. The first one they looked at they're naked. The first one they looked at was in the coffin, because Uncle Calvin was like, oh, this is where they, yeah, like, do their makeup and put their clothes and stuff. So she'll be getting it healed up, but then Granny's nude in the drawer. That's what happens, right? I think that's what happened after they opened the coffin and it was the wrong guy. They pulled out the thing from the autopsy.
Speaker 3:She's got a tag on her toe.
Speaker 1:And the kid's like uh Realistic, oh shit, oh damn it. Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Cover up.
Speaker 1:Cover up, right that's how serial killers are born yeah.
Speaker 2:I want to do this.
Speaker 1:I don't want to see it anymore, anyway, so it's a really good moment.
Speaker 3:Yes, it was not for Billy after all it was a little bizarre.
Speaker 1:But he's essentially like they pull it out and he goes okay, you can close it, what? And then they have a moment they go to or they're walking out in the Undertaker's right there and he's like staring at Uncle Calvin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jake sees the guy. Yeah, just like standing in the corner of a room, just like looking at him Because, like all the lights are off because he's walking into this building and he's like they think that they're sneaking.
Speaker 1:but then he can see Uncle Calvin looking at the Undertaker.
Speaker 2:He sees yeah, hey, I've got to bring this kid to see his dead grandma, because when he showed up, he says, the door was unlocked too, which I was like what I know it's the 80s, but really They'd show up at this door. I forgot about that completely. He thinks that Uncle Calvin, yeah, is going to break the lockers, and then he walks up and just kind of messes with it for a second.
Speaker 1:They're like huh.
Speaker 2:Interesting yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I think, uncle Calvin, he's pre-planned so he could say bye to his grandmas.
Speaker 2:I think Uncle Calvin, yeah, planned this out with the Undertaker so morbid and so wholesome. That's pretty morbid, yeah, but like no, it's probably the best thing, the most healthy thing.
Speaker 3:He's a wholesome man.
Speaker 2:For a 12-year-old, you leave him alone, absolutely thinks that he's doing the best thing he can. He's a good man, savannah. He's a good man, anyway.
Speaker 1:so they go to the hole where essentially she's going to be buried in what like the next week or something. And they're like sitting around it and he's talking to Billy and he says you know, billy, her body's here but her spirit is elsewhere and she's doing all the things that she wants to be and if she wants to be and if she wants to be there, she will be and kind of like puts his mind very, very comforting very comforting.
Speaker 1:And then he goes into the lost sea and the sky and the aliens and there's kind of lost me for a little bit when it comes to the stories I'll be like oh, that's great all right, yeah, cool all right like after reading any Zodiac book, you don't get it. The dark magic came.
Speaker 3:You wouldn't understand.
Speaker 2:okay, he was a wolf, he didn't know dark magic anymore, because the purple stuff came in.
Speaker 3:And one of her other elements was water.
Speaker 2:No, but he had the ancient, dark, mythical one that they thought was lost forever at a time you don't get it, they have one shot.
Speaker 1:No, this is.
Speaker 1:Xander from this series, not Xander from the other one. This is good, xander. They're both dark haired bad boys. Anywho, anywho, details Back to the story. So there's Anywho, anywho, details Back to the story. So there's the lost sea in the sky, and these fairies come through and their bodies are buried. And then, once they've been buried for so long, they come up and it's essentially A crystal cross, but they're fairies, right Anyway. So he leaves that for old grandma Yellowbird crystal cross, but they're fairies, right Anyway. So he leaves that for old grandma Yellowbird. Her thing, and that makes them feel better.
Speaker 1:And then he says you know what boys, two twelve year old boys. We should do this more often. We should make this Saturday Night Ghost Club, and probably Billy first Yep.
Speaker 2:Sounds good, okay, cool.
Speaker 1:And I think a big part of this is for Jake. At least Billy is so like, yes, let's do this. And Jake wants to be friends with Billy and he even, like, talks to his dad about like, oh yeah, I met this guy and you know I think we could be friends.
Speaker 2:Oh, a friend, yeah, thank.
Speaker 1:God, I thought my kid was never going to make it. Yeah Well, okay, I think we should talk about Jake's parents really quickly. Yep, jake's dad has a bit of a past he's a fighting dude.
Speaker 2:You seem like he's a bit of a. I think he's Irish.
Speaker 1:A bit of a bad in the day. Yes, straight name works like an office.
Speaker 3:Now I think, right yeah, he works in finance, but he used to be my character from some of our other books.
Speaker 2:They don't figure their stuff out used to be a real loose cannon, very like very aggressive would come home and then Jake's mom is very much was in the band.
Speaker 1:She like went to protests for animal rights like kind of goody tissues, kind of vibe.
Speaker 2:And she is Calvin's sister. Uncle Calvin is Jake's mom's brother.
Speaker 3:Yeah, which I did not put that together for so much longer than I should have. No, yeah In the beginning.
Speaker 2:I thought the opposite. They say it in the beginning than I should have. No, yeah, in the beginning.
Speaker 3:I thought the opposite. They say it in the beginning.
Speaker 2:Oh really, yeah, I must have just had that charisma.
Speaker 1:We didn't have our listening ears on. So at one point Jake's mom breaks it off with Jake's dad because she's like you're too much of a loose cannon. I'm not doing this.
Speaker 3:Had enough of your shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So then he cleans up, he stops fighting, he gets a job More than Susie's exes could do Combined.
Speaker 3:I mean you said stopped drinking, she said it first, she said it first.
Speaker 2:That was Susie's joke, everyone. That was Susie's joke.
Speaker 3:That's right, that was mine, and I'll say it every month.
Speaker 1:But anyway, so then she takes him back, and then they're together and they seem like they're good people.
Speaker 3:They're good parents. He grew up.
Speaker 1:He grew up. He still kind of has that little bit of spice to him.
Speaker 3:A little attitude.
Speaker 1:He's reformed, but so he's very excited that maybe Billy has a friend, jake, or that Jake has a friend because he worries about him, but Billy also has a friend.
Speaker 2:Sorry to interrupt. Billy does have a friend because he worries about it, but Billy also has a friend. Yeah, billy does have a friend too.
Speaker 3:That's also true, billy and Jake are both having a friend, thank you.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just kidding. This is awesome guys. Can I go on every?
Speaker 1:week.
Speaker 3:You say that, since you finished the book, you sure can.
Speaker 1:Yes, we practiced with Justin saying the intro first. I would just like to put this in here and Justin said and my co-host and I was like we're not co-hosts, I'm sorry, I thought this was an equal podcast. Reads two whole books and suddenly, suddenly, he's a reader, so anyway, the Saturday Night Ghost Club is formed. So then he talks about as an adult. Now we're back to his neurosurgery. He talks about this little girl who got a tumor in her brain.
Speaker 1:That was horrible luckily they don't like conclude what happened to her, because she got all better and lived a wonderful, amazing life anyway. So she gets this tumor and it's cancer. And it says. One thing I didn't know is he says this is why cancer is so aggressive in children because their bodies are growing and the disease marshals those growth factors for it, its own ill designs. So because they're growing, so quickly.
Speaker 3:The cancer is such a piece of shit interesting. I didn't know I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:So he talks about her and the tumor and she like doesn't remember who her parents are anymore because that part broke my heart so sad. It was really sad. So then one day, billy meets Dove, jake meets Dove, billy's sister.
Speaker 2:Billy also meets Dove. Billy does when he was born.
Speaker 1:But she is 14, she's older, she is the coolest chick and she's older, she is the coolest, jake Yep, and she is actually the one who had the skateboard. She's the one who stood up for Jake in the very beginning.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And Jake sees he is submitting.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, his jaw floor, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:It's like in the cartoons, literally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm picturing the mask with his eyes going jaw rolls down, his tongue rolls out.
Speaker 1:Also like he says like she's a goddess and you don't just like goddesses, you worship them. And I'm like, yes, that's how you treat a lady, but so he's immediately like in love with.
Speaker 2:Dove, and she's the coolest girl, enamored by exactly the older your friend's older sister which I don't think they ever mention it to me.
Speaker 1:Dove has like purple or blue hair, like she's that girl to me. Um, I don't think she probably does. Just because they are native american. I think for the most part they're very well. I know for the most part they're very particular about their hair, but in my brain she has she's very fiery in in my very so.
Speaker 3:My like fanfiction she had like reddish hair, even though I know that's not right, but like just a sassy spitfire redhead yes, yeah but she. I don't like that idea about those.
Speaker 1:She said I am deaf, susie.
Speaker 2:Susie, you're projecting. I'm like oh, about those. She said I am Dove.
Speaker 1:Susie, you're projecting oh.
Speaker 2:She doesn't give a fuck. She says anything to anybody. She kicks that bully's ass. Dove is the coolest red-haired tits?
Speaker 3:Oh, Dove is teenage me With self-confidence?
Speaker 1:You got that when you were older. Yeah, but Dove has like your first, I guess kind of like you realize it's her introduction. She's a hustler also. She's got a salamander gig going with a business woman down the street she's spitting chew and when she spits, it dribbles down her chin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's not the best at it. She said that's okay, I'm just learning. Even that didn't faze her. She wasn't like embarrassed by it, she was all uh, oops, I just started yesterday.
Speaker 1:But she's like breeding these salamanders and taking them to the pet shop and they give her 10 bucks a piece. She just found these salamanders, just for the record, and she said they're looking to breed. Okay, cool, that's great, honey, yeah. But so they're like at their house and, um, billy and dove's mom comes out and it's like come on in, have a sandwich or something, go wash your hands. And they noticed she has a limp, which we come to find out is because Billy and Dove's dad was abusive and then he ended up leaving.
Speaker 2:It was actually Billy's grandpa who gave her the limp.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the dad hit her with a piece of wood.
Speaker 3:I already brain-read this. I'm like, huh, half of this is just Susie's learning. Susie, did you read the book? I swear.
Speaker 1:And then also she tells Dove, did you take your medication today? And Dove like gets all like, what does she say?
Speaker 2:Yeah, she kind of just like storms inside.
Speaker 3:She said really like like her response was really weird, though I remember reading it like that's a oh, I'll go take it directly or I'll something directly, and I was like that's a really weird way to say yeah, she, she's clearly feels a way of and she.
Speaker 1:She doesn't like taking the medication because it like dulls her down. Essentially, I'm pretty sure she's bipolar. I think that's what it actually is down. Essentially, I'm pretty sure she's bipolar. I think that's what it actually is Something like that, yeah because they say she's always by the sun. But she gets both effects of by the sun. She's either 100% or is like really down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think. Yeah, billy says it, it's an extreme.
Speaker 1:One extreme or the other.
Speaker 2:Right, she's like the sun.
Speaker 3:She burns really, really hot, all just like oh, and if?
Speaker 1:there's no more traumatic household, I guess BPD would make a lot of sense. Yeah, I'm pretty.
Speaker 2:I was pretty sure she was bipolar, but Billy kind of explains it to Jake he starts the conversation off by when the next time that Billy and Jake are hanging out, he goes do you like my sister and Jake's like? No God, no, why would you even ask me that?
Speaker 1:And then in his internal dialogue. That's when he talks about what a goddess does. Dearest diary we are in love? No, literally, why would you huh?
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then Billy says well, you know, she takes medication.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, she takes pills yeah.
Speaker 2:But then he gets, like you know, kind of like embarrassed, like oh, I shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he still kind of explains it to him Of, like the medication just kind of helps her, so she's not really one way or the other, like it just kind of helps her stay in between. So it does kind of dull the sun.
Speaker 2:But it kind of picks up the yeah.
Speaker 3:The orange brings me up. The blue brings me up. The blue brings me down. The white keeps the voices. I'll have to show you that it's a really old vine and it's really funny. I'll show you guys. Okay, somebody watching this has seen that and I know it.
Speaker 1:It's funny okay, the voices. So we have the first saturday night ghost club night and it is at this old. It's like a house that was completely burned. It's gonna be a banger. Watch out, yeah. And there's like this tunnel, the screaming tunnel, the screaming tunnel leading into it this um, I guess we should probably talk about Lex really quick. Lex is Uncle Calvin's best friend and he owns the shop right next to him, so that's kind of the Two crazy old men that own stores next to each other.
Speaker 2:I didn't really realize in the beginning that they are actually BFFs. In the beginning I kind of thought he was just the shop owner next door and Uncle Calvin's obviously a cool, fun guy. So of thought he was just like the shop owner next door and Uncle Calvin's obviously like a cool, fun guy. So I thought they were just like buddies. But in the end you're honest to know they're like lifelong best friends.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he ends up being a part of the Saturday Night Ghost Club. So it's Lex, Uncle, Calvin, Billy and Jake.
Speaker 2:Even though Lex is not a believer in all, of Uncle Calvin's a believer in all of Uncle Calvin's.
Speaker 3:So in this part of the horror movie, we all get real scared.
Speaker 1:I'm just letting everybody here know. If any weird shit starts happening, I'm the first person out here as we're talking about the. Saturday Night Ghost.
Speaker 2:No kidding. Thank you, Alexa. Don't worry, Kyle, it's a.
Speaker 1:Sunday person out of here, as we're talking about the saturday night ghost club. Yes, thank you, alexa. Thanks, connor, that makes me feel so much better. So he's a part of the. The kids I shouldn't say kids- club.
Speaker 2:Yes, even though he doesn't believe in all of Uncle Calvin's supernatural things, he still wants to just go hang out with him, and Uncle Calvin has very extensive stories for all of these places they're going that was the main reason that he reminded me of my grandpa was because he is quite a storyteller. He gives you every detail of everything, just so, so good. He's just so so good. He can just go forever about everything and every detail of it, non-stop.
Speaker 1:Every piece of history that you could possibly know about something.
Speaker 2:Two 12-year-olds are hanging on the edge of their seat, obviously, and adults sometimes, yes, as I always am too.
Speaker 1:Would you like to explain to us the story of the screaming tunnel?
Speaker 2:Uh sure, yeah. So they go up there at night and Uncle Calvin's telling them I don't remember, could you see where the house was? No, no, he just said it burned down. He says there was a house in the woods, yeah, the whole thing burned down. There was a husband and a wife lived there and they had a daughter. And then one day the husband got home from work and he heard the husband went away for work a lot because he was in the railroad.
Speaker 3:Is that guy that was in the railroad or something? Yeah, because there's a railroad track. He was going a lot.
Speaker 2:He'd have to ride it to work or something, yeah the husband gets home one night and he hears the wife inside with another man. So the husband freaks out. I'm not saying so. The husband freaks out. I'm not saying anything, the husband freaks out and burns the house down, locks the doors from the outside and burns the house down, which seems like a total reaction.
Speaker 1:A little bit of an overreaction. And then he stood outside with a pitchfork waiting at the window?
Speaker 2:At the window, yep, because he blocked the door so they couldn't get out the doors. Yeah, so he waited at the window to skewer them, if they broke out the window While they're screaming inside. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:And his daughter was inside too, Yep.
Speaker 2:I don't know if he knew that. I don't think it said anything about he had to have known he didn't think about his daughter at all. He just seemed to get home, hear his wife inside with another man and Okay, glad that we remained, calm, yeah, glad we didn't overreact. Here you nailed that one buddy and then I think his daughter comes running out of the house or something on fire, Something horrific.
Speaker 3:And then dies Goes down the tunnel.
Speaker 2:And that's why it's the screaming tunnel. Yeah, the daughter's running down the tunnel alive burning.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I was disturbed and I'm an adult and you're telling this to like a the first one, the first Saturday.
Speaker 2:They're in the woods at like 10 o'clock at night.
Speaker 1:Eat them in with like big farts or something.
Speaker 2:Infidelity. Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah, uncle Kevin told the kids not to tell their parents where they were going because they're out there like obviously late at night in the woods. I think they made a campfire and were having some marshmallows.
Speaker 3:He's kind of like telling a scary story and how Lex goes and gets high. It was really far off.
Speaker 2:And Uncle Calvin makes him walk away from the kids Dang.
Speaker 1:We Lex-ed him. God no Wait, have I started to lose you? You guys are going to tell me, I will tell you.
Speaker 3:Actually, who am I kidding? No, I won't, because I'm as delulu as you, the blind leading the blind.
Speaker 1:Hi-ho, hi-ho, off to find Ghost Rico.
Speaker 2:So the Screaming Tunnel, what is like? So explain what the ghost story is. I think what Calvin says if you go in there right at midnight, if you're standing in the middle of the tunnel, then you can see for a fleeting second the girl that burned.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but if I did?
Speaker 1:Well, okay, so Jake, kind of does see her yeah this was interesting to me.
Speaker 2:I think he cleaned it up at the end of the book, but anyway. So yeah, they're in there. The three of them are standing there because Lex stays by the fire because he doesn't care about this stuff. He just wants to come hang out and eat some marshmallows and hang out with the boys on a Saturday. But so Uncle Calvin and the kids are standing in the tunnel. Midnight happens, I don't remember, do they?
Speaker 1:hear anything?
Speaker 2:I don't think so I think the way Jake says it is he sees like a flash of white and he thinks he sees, you know, like some kind of glowing clothes.
Speaker 1:He sees her Because he passes out. Yeah, so he definitely sees her, right, he sees her freaks out and faints. Yeah, yes, Can you imagine you get your one friend?
Speaker 2:and you pass out on your second date, you know.
Speaker 1:Your first one's at the graveyard and the second one you pass out. He's like really screwing this. So that's their first Saturday Night Ghost Club and Jake just tells his parents that he's going to go and stay at Uncle Calvin's house.
Speaker 2:Yeah because when he was younger he would stay at Uncle Calvin's for movie nights Because him and Uncle Calvin seemed very close. Obviously he adores.
Speaker 3:It was a funny story about how Uncle Calvin got grounded for movie nights with him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because one time they watched a scary movie. So after that Jake's mom would send him with a movie for him to watch. So Uncle Calvin couldn't choose anymore. Like what.
Speaker 3:Saw 3?. What's? A good choice.
Speaker 1:We already watched 1 and 2. I don't know. I think one important thing is, even though Uncle Calvin is nutty, jake's parents do trust him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's not crazy, he's just kind of cool. Not dangerous he's not dangerous.
Speaker 1:by any means, they do really trust him with Jake. He owns his own business. He loves Jake. You can see how genuinely.
Speaker 3:He just loves his nephew Absolutely. You read the book, didn't you? But the point is, you can feel it. Yes, you see it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the voice of it, anyway. So after that he goes back to Uncle Calvin's house and he wakes up and Uncle Calvin is at his kitchen table and he's sobbing, crying hysterically, and is like I can't find it, I can't find it, I can't find it. And he's like, crying and like this was. I was like, oh, what kind of book are we getting into here? Because I was like is he possessed? Is that what this is? This is going to take a real dark turn.
Speaker 3:Is he the ghost?
Speaker 1:So then the next morning Jake's like oh, he sees him floating in the doorway. Not floating, he's in the doorway, anyway, and the drawings like one is a woman and she's underwater looking up at him. One's like a creature, and then one's like what he would imagine the void being like, and the eyes are so dark, like the paper has ripped.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like a demonic face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, calvin, might be a little possessed.
Speaker 3:Or in Stranger Things, it's called the Upside Down. Oh.
Speaker 1:You wouldn't get it. Well, you know, in Supernatural I haven't. I've held it in this whole time I'm doing so good.
Speaker 2:It's funny because obviously, like most people who watch Stranger Things, we're the minority.
Speaker 1:But here, between the three of us, you're the minority, so we can make fun of you. If I was just happy to watch it, bones, you watched it, tell me now.
Speaker 2:That's what I said Tell me now, that's what.
Speaker 1:I said so. Then we go to present day and we have another patient of his and his name is Silas Gibson, and he ends up going there because he's getting really bad migraines and he has a tumor and he gets sucked out. This guy was weird.
Speaker 2:This was so interesting this was really interesting to me. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like okay. Guy was weird. This was so interesting, this was really interesting to me. Yeah, yeah, like okay. So the story is he gets it sucked out and, um, way back before he met his wife, he had a really bad gambling addiction, a really heavy drinking problem. He ended up cleaning it up. They got married, he, they had a baby. Years later he goes in because he has these horrible migraines. He gets it sucked out and then he starts drinking and gambling again.
Speaker 1:He kind of falls out the way again yeah, and then, um, then he starts cleaning it up and he goes back because he has migraines again and the tumor's back and he tells him just to leave it there because when he has it he doesn't have the gambling problem or the drinking problem and it was a benign tumor, which is the whole point why this surgeon was even entertaining In theory, which he does talk about putting pressure on certain parts of the brain, like impulse control and things like that can be affected.
Speaker 1:You did kind of learn a lot about different parts of the brain. It's true, but as you're reading it you're like boop, who cares Back to the ghost about like different parts of the brain. And it's true, but as you're reading it, you're like boop some of the messages were interesting, but I didn't need it in so many words. Yeah, but you but like they all make sense.
Speaker 1:Yes, absolutely, yeah, as you go out of the time so then um dove comes and says, hey j, you want to go for a bike ride. And he said boy, do I? Hell. Yeah, brother, they go to the Equatorium, because that's kind of where all the kids start hanging out per se, and Lex is there and he's like you guys want a mission, and Dove's like I'm out, and he sends Billy and Jake on a mission to a witch's house. Yeah, yes.
Speaker 2:And he's being so like oh, you guys want to go see a witch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because Lex doesn't believe it. I've never seen a witch.
Speaker 2:So he's kind of like making fun of it and being like, oh, it was just fun the way that he was like spelling it out, hyping it all up? Yeah, hyping it up yes exactly Engaging them in like a cool way that they would be like, oh yeah, let's do this.
Speaker 1:And he gives them like a cat carrier and it's like I need you to go get this cat from this witch's house. And they're like okay. So they show up, they go in her house, Walk in and then they hear some frigabitiness going on upstairs. Turns out good old ex of lex and the undertaker getting a little groovy in the downtown and which I thought was just kind of an odd thing.
Speaker 3:Why did they have to describe how hairy the undertaker was? So unnecessary? I?
Speaker 2:thought it felt so much like a 90s sitcom. Yes, the guy comes.
Speaker 1:They're in the middle of the day. I'm a lucky man.
Speaker 2:In the middle of the day. The guy comes downstairs in his underwear, with his socks on. He gets into the refrigerator, takes a big swig of orange juice. Oh God, I'm a lucky man. And then she calls me upstairs.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm waiting.
Speaker 2:Come back up here, just waiting to be in your loving arms and then you go running back upstairs and they're all we gotta get out of here it was so campy on the nose it was funny and they're like who knew he was so hairy.
Speaker 1:But the cat comes right to them and the mission successful yep.
Speaker 2:So yeah, they call the cat and take it back.
Speaker 1:They never see the witch. Also she's upstairs the entire time. But so then after that we have night number two, or I guess it's day, which is the sunken car. Tell us about the sunken car.
Speaker 3:The sunken car I'm like. I read this whole thing, and I don't even I'm spacing this completely.
Speaker 2:So Uncle C takes him to this, did you read it? I know like he's kind of like I remember the ship.
Speaker 3:I'm really excited about the ship part. Yes, uncle, the ship, yeah, the ship where the guys are stuck in it and stuff, and it worked through, that's cool.
Speaker 2:I don't remember that. I think that already happened. Go ahead and talk about that.
Speaker 1:Oh. So there's one that's in the Lost Sea, in the very beginning, oh, where he talks about the aliens and things like that yeah that Billy was telling Jake about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how, some of the soldiers. So there was a ship that had the. They used magnetic forces and lights and were trying to bend it and hide it and anyway it like went, anyway it went through time. The government was like whoopsie, yeah they were trying to make it invisible. Something god-awful happens, where basically the sailors do that Davy Jones locker shit, where they're part of the ship and they're dying and they're all starting.
Speaker 2:They're like welded into the chain my brain was having a heyday with pictures Only like half of the people. I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 3:I thought that was going to like come back up and only a few of them like lived to tell. And then the ones that would tell, only some of them would talk about it.
Speaker 1:That was like a bonding moment between him and Jake.
Speaker 2:Yep, when they were like hanging out One of their first times hanging out really, yeah, yep, okay, I. That was really cool. Anyway, so the lake.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the lake. They end up taking this boat out and he tells the story about a man and his daughter and they're driving across the bridge. They go off the bridge, they hit the frozen ice, they go through it and both of them drowned. And that's kind of the story. But if you go at a certain time, you can see her floating above the car.
Speaker 1:I'm like this is ringing a bell, okay, yeah. So like I feel which I was kind of like some of this stuff, like I don't get what the whole point of this is, but then I was like there's. They're hunting for ghosts like that. That is kind of the whole point, um. But he's like, you got to get in the water because it's a really like shallow kind of lake, um yeah, uncle calvin wants the kids to go.
Speaker 2:Invest, come down there and check out the car and see if the bodies are still in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he said the undertaker probably took him, because he takes all of the bodies in this town. Yes, he does. So Dove immediately jumps in the water, billy gets into the water, jake has a whole body image moment.
Speaker 3:He's self-conscious because Dove is?
Speaker 1:there.
Speaker 2:Jake's a chubbier guy.
Speaker 1:He just decides to get in anyway.
Speaker 2:Because they don't care, right?
Speaker 1:Billy and Dove are cool as can be when they get in their swimsuits and get in the water and he's like at the end of the day, billy and Dove do not care what his body looks like at all, and I think that was really great for him, because he has been picked on because of it. So then, dove and Billy are like the coolest people ever, and they're cool.
Speaker 3:And they're body positive in the 80s Holy shit.
Speaker 1:But so they like swim down there. And then they come back up and they're like, yep, there's a car. And he's like, oh, there's no bodies in there.
Speaker 3:And he's like, nope, there's no bodies in there and he's like nope just a car and he's like, okay, good, what was your plan if there was Calvin?
Speaker 1:And then they just hang out at the river and then they see Lex on the shore and he's watching them and he kind of has like a sad look on his face.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he didn't go with them that time. This time they just saw him and then when they see him, I think he like turned around and leaves right yeah, but he's like, I think he like hangs his head and then he leaves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's observing them for some reason yeah, after that dove and jake are hanging out, they go to the hospital. They help her mom for a few hours um in the hospital, like stocking supplies and things like that.
Speaker 3:Because what's an er nurse right some sort of nurse? I don't know if you remember so dove randomly after they get done. Hanging out with her mom at work is like all right, I'm gonna head out like she, just I'm gonna head straight to a greyhound bus station and I'm just gonna go here yeah whatever will cost me 24, yeah, and she just walks up and Jake is trying to talk her out of it in his shock, in the way that I would imagine Eric would try to talk me out of something I'd be like.
Speaker 3:I just want to do this thing. He'd be like, but you didn't plan.
Speaker 2:He's just flabbergasted.
Speaker 3:I'm like, can you just roll? I'm just going to get on this bus at the Ripe Babe Chip 14. I am a grown ass woman. I'll take a ticket to somewhere far away and I believe there was one part where she said I just brought you so that maybe someone would try to talk me out of it but. I'm not gonna listen, so she goes on and he is panicking. So he calls her family and is like oh guys.
Speaker 2:No one answers, so he leaves a message and he stays on there as long as he can.
Speaker 1:Do you remember what it?
Speaker 3:was like to leave a message at your friends on their phone. Oh, I used to like. That's where my anxiety started.
Speaker 2:Susie, your age is showing Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3:I was just wondering if I I didn't say it was my rotary phone.
Speaker 2:Susie, nowadays us kids just TikTok our friends' parents. Okay, you guys back in your day did it differently yeah.
Speaker 1:Hey, teresa saw this TikTok and thought I might DM her real quick.
Speaker 2:That's how us youths do it Us youths.
Speaker 1:Justin really thinks he's hip with the slang. We went and played laser tag. I don't think nothing. Everybody. We went and played laser tag. I had proven my skills. Everyone was so impressed. And Justin was on a team with two little kids. Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Yes, we had a game that had like 30 people waiting to get in this room.
Speaker 1:It was a busy night. There's four teams.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so everybody flocks to these three colors. And then there's like two 10-year-olds on the green team and so I'm like this is where I belong.
Speaker 1:He said just us guys.
Speaker 2:Just us.
Speaker 1:What did you tell them? I don't remember what I said.
Speaker 2:Yes, you did I hit them with some skivvity riz. They were like oh, you know kid talk. You know, kid talk. Anyway, it was awesome.
Speaker 3:Then we dapped up and got our asses kicked. I just tried not to embarrass her.
Speaker 1:You did pretty good, connor did pretty good.
Speaker 3:I was impressed, connor was a standout.
Speaker 1:He was in the medium thousands. He did great. Justin, beat me one game, have your money. So then, a few days later, dove shows up at his house because she's like I'm back again. Billy and his mom essentially went and picked her up and she had, like, went to a concert, got some donuts and, honestly, it was kind of wholesome, like when I found out what she did.
Speaker 3:I'm like aw.
Speaker 1:Well, I think it kind of talks about her mom being very worried, like what she's going to do when she's older, because she is so impulsive and like lives, this life to a thousand, you know, like she's really worried about she has no concept of consequences.
Speaker 2:None, that's exactly right Now.
Speaker 3:I have some people in life just for some reason, like are excluded. It makes me angry.
Speaker 1:I'm like the fuck, the fuck Anywho. Sorry, good old Cal came out there. So then after that, dove shows up at his house and is like I've got some fireworks. You want to go send them off in the scrapyard?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And like this is his first time seeing Dove again, Since that happened?
Speaker 2:yeah, she just totally. I think Billy's there too and they both just act like nothing's happened.
Speaker 1:He's like what the fuck. Which like this would be me as a kid Like a hundred percent. I'm not going around you anymore. Do you have any idea how worried I've been?
Speaker 2:Yeah, literally. Yeah, jake is in over his head.
Speaker 1:Yes, no, that yeah. Jake is in over his head. No notes Fargon. You're gonna die, but he's like we're on the street.
Speaker 2:Let me ask my mom. Yeah, because he's grounded for staying out too late and his mom is not a big fan of her, not a big fan of Dove.
Speaker 1:They were getting into his dad's Playboy magazines, which then caused a whole thing with the parents.
Speaker 2:That was so funny. That was like the funniest part of the book. So after yeah, so Deb and Jake are hanging out at his house.
Speaker 1:Rewind, rewind this was like weeks prior Right.
Speaker 2:Deb and Jake are hanging out at his house. They find some of his dad's old Playboy magazines and they're looking at them, and then they put them back in the box. They get busted yeah, I and they're looking at him and then they put him back in the box. They get busted.
Speaker 1:yeah Well, I don't think his mom sees him, they hide him back in the box, but they don't put it back where it was. It's a van. I think she knew. Really you think so yeah?
Speaker 2:Anyways, a couple weeks later, jake gets home and his mom and dad are fighting and his mom's like what were you keeping those four anyway? And his dad's like well, back in the day they actually were literature.
Speaker 1:They were all the articles.
Speaker 2:They were interesting think pieces and interviews with authors and whatnot.
Speaker 1:And then he says something about I was saving them for the will or something, the inheritance. There goes your inheritance, Jake.
Speaker 2:That was hilarious Fight about it, yeah. And then Jake shows up and his dad uses him to kind of bail himself out of it but also Jake's mom knows that Dub chews and things like that, and she just like, doesn't really she's a bad influence you gotta watch out for them, older girls she's an addict.
Speaker 1:Yeah, justin and I are like a few months apart, well, you're an older girl, yeah but compared to Mr Bones here, the millennial Susie, you're a spring chicken. You're a spring chicken.
Speaker 2:I don't remember what Jake got grounded for.
Speaker 1:There was some sort of disagreement with like punishment and then the dad was like yeah, that was a weird thing. You can't be too harsh on him. It had to have been like something with his friends saying up too late.
Speaker 2:I know they stayed up too late because she wanted to help, but yeah, there was a weird thing where his mom was like, well, two weeks, you're grounded.
Speaker 3:She was like mom, just needed to feel powerful.
Speaker 2:I guess. So I remember being a kid sometimes and being like here we go. She'll get over it in a couple days. And then when his mom says that Jake and his dad are both like wait what?
Speaker 1:Wait, what Huh? Seriously, because Jake's a pretty good kid. I pictured him and the dad.
Speaker 3:He's got his face. You got to talk to her man, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll do my best. Anyways, that was just kind of a weird thing yeah, but anyway.
Speaker 1:So at the scrapyard they go, and this whole thing was terrifying.
Speaker 2:Really uncomfortable and weird. So they're going and they have like their fireworks and this guy creepy older because they say, the scrapyard is very like abandoned and kids go there to kind of cause trouble, and it's right next to the train track, so sometimes there's homeless people who ride the tracks and dub said sign me up, yeah, right. And so of course, yeah, dub takes him there to be a bad bitch somewhere I shouldn, shouldn't be yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Like for kids older than me, Perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So they're sitting there and this guy comes out and it turns really like icky vibes towards Dove.
Speaker 3:It gets like hey little lady, how you doing yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they're sitting by her side and she kind of plays into it.
Speaker 2:Right, but but like with. Parker yeah, this guy gets out of a car and he's like really rough and gruff looking and it's just being kind of weird.
Speaker 3:It's like, oh, you kids want to have some fun, and I believe he has a tire iron at one point, and that's what I was thinking. I don't think he has it yet. I think that's later, we'll see later.
Speaker 2:But yeah, he's being just very weird and creepy and Dove pretty much just like, kind of like, starts playing this guy that's my lady absolutely. And yeah, jake can kind of see that dove and billy both just kind of like walk in yeah and are like he's just like, oh my god, like who the hell is this guy? Like what's going on?
Speaker 3:jake has never been traumatized exactly um.
Speaker 2:Can you come get me exactly, yeah, exactly, dove and billy, I'm not supposed to be and I'm sorry, yeah yeah dove made me you can grab me for like a month, but just kept saying me, yeah, but yeah, dove and billy, just lock in she's like making this dance or whatever, and she has the lighter, yeah this guy's being weird and pervy and she like recognizes it and so yeah, she starts kind of like playing it back and yes, exactly she throws the lighter towards Billy.
Speaker 1:Billy takes a firework, lights it, shoots it at the guy. Yeah, and then they.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they kind of like just silently come up with.
Speaker 1:That's some good sibling teamwork, Right they?
Speaker 2:just come up with a little plan together, because Jake's watching them like kind of In awe Interact with each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he's like, yeah, right, so Billy shoots the guy with the whatever those are called, and then like comes up to him no, then they do it again.
Speaker 2:Oh really, they get closer to him and do it again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they like lift his shirt up and do it on his shirt or something I've never been hit with a firecracker or whatever with a Roman candle, but I feel like that would do some serious damage.
Speaker 2:It seemed like it did yeah.
Speaker 1:But then they like take off he had a big beard.
Speaker 2:They say that burned his beard all up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, they kind of describe him as this mangled monster. Yeah.
Speaker 2:After they shoot him with the fireworks A beast yeah, From then on right they call him the beast and it's kind of like an animal hunting them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so then they run.
Speaker 2:And then they take the wrong path, and so they yeah, and then it's like a scary movie where he's like walking and going under the cars and he's got the tire.
Speaker 3:This part actually like my blood was pumping.
Speaker 1:Cuz it's like real danger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like not to say that ghost stuff isn't danger, but like this is real danger, yeah it's so much more tangible this is real life shit that this guy is up to no good.
Speaker 3:If a ghost chased me with a tire iron, I could see you best believe that.
Speaker 1:That's a strong ghost To be able to pick up a tire iron. Yeah, you're screwed, honey, that's attached to you.
Speaker 2:There's one point when they're I think it's when they're under the cars and they hear him like walking around looking for him with a tire iron, and they hear him kind of muttering to himself like just do it Like you can just hop on the train, these little fucking brats deserve it. Like just do it and then get out of town.
Speaker 1:It's like oh my God you deserve it.
Speaker 2:Doing it, you know you would just do it and then go.
Speaker 3:it's like oh, that's immediately what I thought which is like, also like.
Speaker 1:That's why I don't really know if this would be why or not, because there's a lot of like murder, true a lot of unaliving happening. Yes, once he like passes them and they're hiding underneath the car. They get out of the car and they run and they find their bikes and they go home and it was a very I can imagine like a very sobering, horrible ride home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they said they're all doing the thing where you're like standing up on your bike, like you're not sitting in your seat, you're standing up like pedaling your ass off.
Speaker 1:What if he's chasing us? Exactly, yep.
Speaker 2:They said the whole way home. He kept expecting to like pop out from under the tree or something. Yeah, terr, which is reasonable? That sounds pretty scary. And then he goes home and he doesn't tell his parents anything, he goes to sleep.
Speaker 1:Yep Classic. So then we have the second to last Saturday Night, ghost Club, and he takes him to this house that had burned down but it's still kind of there, and he tells the story. Do you want to say the story?
Speaker 3:You better help me out.
Speaker 1:So this is kind of the main one of this man and wife very much in love. Oh, she's pregnant. The story.
Speaker 3:Sorry, okay, she's pregnant. I was like great, what did adhd forget again? I'm so fucking sorry.
Speaker 2:Yes, justin before they go to this one lex is being much more like kind of almost like helicopter parent kind of with Uncle Cal and yeah, just being a lot more attentive. I think that moved again. Quit, you mean, help me. Yes, much more apprehensive and like parental with Uncle Cal.
Speaker 1:Which is weird for them. Do you think this is a good idea? What are you?
Speaker 2:doing. We don't really have any reason to understand why he's kind of babying him a little, but Uncle Calvin's just like, oh, kind of, but also kind of, not, he's also, he's starting to have an emotional reaction to something, yeah, where he's very emotional and Jake doesn't really have any idea why he's not acting like his normal eccentric Uncle Calvin.
Speaker 1:And like I don't think Uncle Calvin even knows why he is having these kind of reactions, Like with the car underneath the water, Did you find anything?
Speaker 2:No, oh, okay, good, but like he doesn't really know why, yeah, he was kind of definitely off that day when they were going through the car. It was kind of like like a little more sullen and just like they're just like kind of doing stuff, not like as usual. Oh yeah, it's funny. A little saying you like have a little 30 seconds of like yep, definitely, I definitely thought about the rest of the stuff that happened.
Speaker 1:I was like oh, before we get into that everybody. Um, just a couple of sad bitches.
Speaker 2:Connor said Reck, yeah, all right, sorry.
Speaker 1:Let's go, bitches, okay. We had a slight seating change. Yes, we have a problem with cameras.
Speaker 2:He was lonely. I got lonely. I said I want to sit with the girls on the couch.
Speaker 1:He's a girl. But good news is, I look like I'm tall now, so I'm happy about that. Okay, so when were? We? We have a story of the burned house. Yes, a man and a woman. I don't know where it cut, so I'm just going to.
Speaker 2:A husband and a wife who were dearly in love.
Speaker 3:That loved each other in their perfect little forest home to move out of the city and she was pregnant and he was wholesome and off at work or doing something. He was in the house, oh he was home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but she let in these men and they ended up stabbing her.
Speaker 3:Don't answer your door when someone fucking knocks.
Speaker 2:A guy knocks on the door and says he was lost in the woods and he needed help.
Speaker 3:I'd be like that's too damn bad, so I let in the door.
Speaker 2:They let him in. He snatches a knife off the counter and cuts the phone line and they go. Huh, that was kind of weird, I wonder what's up? With that that's shady, and then he taps the knife on the window and a couple other guys come in the house and they're all like you know it's an aggressive yeah yeah, vagrants and they stab her and then I don't know where he's at.
Speaker 1:He's unharmed yeah, but he doesn't like fight them off or anything gaming blissfully. So then, once they leave, don't mess with that once they leave he uh.
Speaker 1:And once they leave, he comes, he takes her, he hot wires his car because they cut the wires and drives her to the hospital. She ends up passing away. He moves back into the house and he moves back into the house, but he moves back into the house and then it feels like the house is haunted by her and she's in everything and he sees her everywhere and he burns. The house is haunted by her and she's in everything and he sees her everywhere and he burns the house down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Because the kids are confused after she dies. I remember Billy was like wait, what? So? What? The house is still there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because this time for the ghost story there actually is a burned down house there, yeah, but it's like bones of a house.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, you can see the structure, believe they say that it's down to the studs, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then the kids are like oh wow, crazy okay.
Speaker 1:And Uncle Calvin is very upset and he's crying, and the kids don't really know why. And Lex is like you guys go walk somewhere. He's like just don't be here.
Speaker 2:He just says you guys, yeah, take a hike for a minute. You walk somewhere. He's like, just don't be here.
Speaker 1:He just says you guys, yeah, take a hike for a minute, you guys need to go for a second, and then he's like trying to calm him down.
Speaker 2:He's consoling him and, like, puts a blanket around him. He obviously knows something about what's happening. Why, yeah, kellen's reacting like this?
Speaker 1:And then he kind of tells Jake just needs to reset, he'll be okay tomorrow. He just needs to reset and he's like sorry say again so then after that sorry.
Speaker 2:Lex drives the kids home, well, goes back for uncle calvin because they're just like completely lost. So yeah, he throws their bikes in the back of the van and drives them home and shake his home and he's like that's pretty weird. I don't think I'm gonna tell my parents about it yeah, oh yeah, he does.
Speaker 1:But so then the next day, or whenever um billy and jake are hanging out and, long story short, percy and terry end up shooting billy in the neck with bb gun because they're randomly just sitting in front of his house.
Speaker 2:They're sitting on the sidewalk. He gets shot in the neck of the bb. Gun turns around, goes.
Speaker 1:This is that son of a bitch percy's house and then he takes a rock or a brick and throws it through his window and then there's like confrontation you're gonna pay for my window and Jake's like riding the adrenaline.
Speaker 2:He's like I didn't even, I'm not doing nothing, I didn't even know I was gonna do that. I don't even know like what words I'm saying. I'm like no, I'm yeah, screw you, you shot me a brick.
Speaker 1:He stands up for himself and he like can't even believe it himself yeah, he's like just wait till my dad finds out blah, blah which, like he doesn't know, jake's got like the og gangster of a dad you know, like he's like oh yeah, just wait till my dad finds out. So he goes home, dad, dad asks him about it Go ahead.
Speaker 2:You forgot the most important part, where Percy keeps yapping in his mouth and Jake steps forward and punches him in the face and breaks his nose.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think, jake, because he could see out of the corner of his eye, billy was getting his little locked in so he's like, all right, well, billy can kick both these kids' asses, but they don't know that. Yeah, I'm not too worried. I think that kind of gives them the confidence to be like well, billy's here, so I'm safe, so I'll stand up for myself. So yeah, percy's running his mouth and Jake's just when the Percy's Karen of a mother is, you know you're going to pay for my son's nose?
Speaker 3:What about his nose? Like honey, I'm trying to care.
Speaker 1:Like I'm trying to care.
Speaker 3:I'm like, yeah, get her.
Speaker 1:It's literally like that there's the door, bitch, there's the door.
Speaker 2:So Percy's dad comes to Jakeake's house after jake told his dad what happened and jake's dad was like sick awesome. Yeah, he told that little punk ass giving me a reason, that's awesome, and jake's dad himself is like getting all fired up because I think he shot you in the neck with a bb gun. And so then jake's dad, jake's dad is sounding like literally let's go. Jake's dad is sounding like he's about to like. Hightail it over to.
Speaker 3:Percy's house. What's that kid's name?
Speaker 2:so he can kick Percy's dad's ass and, as he's like getting that plan together, percy and his dad pull up and Percy's dad gets up and he's like is that your little son of a bitch and son who broke my?
Speaker 3:I don't know, is that your bitch ass kid?
Speaker 2:It's so funny. It just Me, me, me, me, me, right. It literally just like gradually it's up to the dads are beefing with each other for nothing, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, and then Jake's dad, kind of like, is bad mouth and waits for Percy's dad to throw the first punch. And he takes it Like a skilled fighter. You don't start it, you finish it. He takes it. And then George gets Percy's dad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he gets punched, falls on the ground. Jake said he stood right back up.
Speaker 1:Knocked him out, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep punched Percy's dad in one hit and then put him back in their car, and then he said Jake, go get some ice, he's going to have a headache when he wakes up. And it was like, oh, that was so sick.
Speaker 1:And he kind of liked Jake's dad it that was so sick and he kind of liked Jake's dad, it was such a cold line.
Speaker 3:He's picturing me like yeah he's going to have a headache tomorrow, and his knuckles didn't even bruise.
Speaker 1:He didn't even notice. But it ends up getting resolved. They go to the hospital. They're like you're going to press charges Really. It didn't happen.
Speaker 2:In today's world, where they're like that, anyway, so it's all resolved. Yeah, and that's when Percy's mom shows up and she's throwing a fit. My son Jake's mom was like let's all give a fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but so then after that they are going to have another Saturday Night Ghost Club, and Jake is not really wanting to go at this point it is at the cemetery.
Speaker 1:And he finally tells his parents this was just Jake and Uncle Calvin though, yeah, and he finally tells his parents what's been going on and they're like Bruh, what the fuck man? Like okay, but like they disappear. So they're like Alright, well, we wish you would have told us sooner, but this is what we're gonna do. And so ends up happening is Jake goes and meets uncle Calvin at the cemetery for black Agnes, which is his newest ghost story, and Jake's parents are like you go there just like normal, we're gonna follow you and just act.
Speaker 2:Go there just like normal.
Speaker 2:We're gonna follow you and just act like we showed up yeah, we're gonna make sure everything's okay yeah that's essentially what it is, and jake was like talking about how he felt really bad, that he was kind of like betraying, yeah, his uncle, and he was like snitching on him and wearing a wire because he obviously like been having a you know a blast hanging out with his life right. He could like his life Right and he could like tell obviously something was going on from like the way his parents reacted to him going into it and they were like this is not good, yeah.
Speaker 3:So he's kind of just like okay, I guess His spidey senses routinely.
Speaker 2:But I felt bad for him.
Speaker 1:I did too.
Speaker 2:Like the confl be doing it.
Speaker 1:But so essentially the story with Black Agnes is it's this statue of this woman and it's a headstone is really what it is. But the story is they were going for a walk down the river. She ended up losing her daughter along the river. They don't really know what happened to her. She's very sad, very depressed. She ends up passing away five years later. So then it's kind of like this whole ghost story of her in this cemetery. And then apparently there was like a kid found in her arms and the cause of death was like she was squeezed to death because Black Agnes thought that it was her daughter.
Speaker 2:So she picked her up and hugged her so hard that she died.
Speaker 3:I had to listen to this part on audiobook like more than once because I was like what it was kind of weird I should have done that with a couple other chapters. It's okay, we live and we learn.
Speaker 2:You read the whole book.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not all of us did so. Then his parents show up and are like oh, hey guys, what are you doing here?
Speaker 2:And Uncle Calvin immediately goes like to Jake and he looks at him like injured.
Speaker 3:And I imagine.
Speaker 2:Jake being like. Yeah, hey, mom and dad.
Speaker 1:Hey guys. But they're essentially like, oh, we'll give you a ride home. And then he's like, oh, we're just checking out Black Agnes and Jake's mom's like, oh yeah, I think you've told me about her before. And he's like you know the story. And she's like, yeah, you told me the story. And she has like a flashlight and she shines it on the headstone and it's Lydia Sharp, right?
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:And he's like weird, she's got the same last name as us. And she's like, oh yeah, it must be weird and he goes. You know, maybe, no, I don't think I, I don't think I know a lydia and the mom's kind of like prodding him a little bit.
Speaker 2:She's like yeah, that is. Where do you think you ever met her?
Speaker 3:yeah, there's a lot of those sharps in this town. Yeah, he's like man?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. She's like are you sure he's like nope.
Speaker 1:They end up taking him home. He goes home, I think the dad yeah, you're right. The mom goes with Calvin, the dad takes Calvin home.
Speaker 3:I like how I talked about Calvin like he was a child. An adult took Calvin home, don't worry.
Speaker 1:Then they sit Jake down at the table with, like, a root beer.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure they pour a couple hot cocos. You're going to need this. They pour some hot cocos and the mom pours some Jameson.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she said give mine a little something Irish, mine up. Yep, that's what she said. And they tell Uncle Calvin's story. Yeah, uncle Calvin's story.
Speaker 2:Anyway. So we'll see you guys next month for the next book.
Speaker 1:Let me just say I finished this book first. Surprise, surprise, and I was crying. I was literally in the group chat. It was unwell, I'm about to cry Because I was like I'm crying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 525, this is going to make me cry. 527, I'm literally crying Because I was like I'm crying, yeah.
Speaker 1:525,. This is going to make me cry. 527,.
Speaker 3:I'm literally crying. I was crying because I'm going to cry now. He's such a good person.
Speaker 1:He is, he's so sweet, oh my God.
Speaker 3:And the rest of the this last story, the rest of the book, kind of like you have a lot of oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So this will be full of spoilers. This is very depressing, this is very sad, this is very triggering. So Uncle Calvin has already basically told the sad story. So that story about the person in the house was actually Lydia.
Speaker 1:And so what happened was, which is Lydia's wife.
Speaker 3:Lydia Sharp was Uncle Calvin's wife, so Uncle Calvin was, at a time I won't say normal, but he lived differently.
Speaker 1:He was studious, almost, yes, he was like a scientist and like very by the fact.
Speaker 2:He was a physicist. He was the opposite of how he is now. He didn't really believe in it.
Speaker 3:If you couldn't see it, feel it, prove it. He didn't believe in it.
Speaker 2:Right, he lived by the evidence of the eye. But he fell in love with this chick named Lydia, who is very much like he is now.
Speaker 1:She was into supernatural stuff.
Speaker 2:And yeah, they went and did palm readings and tarot cards and he didn't really care about any of it, but he did it all just to entertain her Because he was so in love with her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so then they found a house in the middle of nowhere that was off the main road out in the woods away from the city Out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2:Even though he didn't like it because he was like a pragmatist and he was like, well, we're just like far away from everything and stuff. But he knew that it would be cool and fun for them to have their own lives out there. And she was pregnant.
Speaker 3:The book specified that she was well into her second trimester. And that they were very excited. And then there was a fateful knock on the door and on the door, and uncle calvin's wife was actually the one that was assaulted and basically unalived by two uh strangers in the home, people that had just gotten out of like a psych ward.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's what it was. It was an asylum and they had it. They literally just. We saw lights on the side of the road and went up to the house. Uncle calvin then finds her. He scoops her up, takes her into the vehicle. His battery cables have been cut. He is able to hotwire the vehicle, gets her on the road. It's a snowstorm. He ends up trying to get to the hospital. Fish tails goes over the bridge. They both go into the river and only Uncle Calvin comes out. Uncle Calvin sustains such a severe brain injury that he's put into a coma. For how long he wakes up has no idea he was ever married, had a child. He doesn't even know the attack happened. To this day he still doesn't know and the whole family decided to go with it because they didn't want to re-traumatize him again. Yeah, and the way the mom put it, and I'm sorry everyone that I didn't cry, but you needed to have the facts.
Speaker 1:Well, the way the mom put it is he's not hurting anybody by living this fantasy. He's never hurt anyone.
Speaker 3:He didn't go to the funeral because he didn't know she was alive and that she even died Because they say, why would he go to a funeral? And I believe the sister did it all for him basically yeah, she said it was.
Speaker 2:She kind of spearheaded the idea of you know, like we can't really explain it to him His brain literally, because he was underwater for a long time and it was cold.
Speaker 1:He lost oxygen?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had a like skull fracture, I think, when he was underwater, so he just suffered a lot of brain damage. So he has this horrible amnesia where he doesn't remember his wife or anything. Really.
Speaker 3:And now it's like his brain sort of does, but it gave it to him in like a different version. A different version, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, his memory, which is kind of a theme of the book, like your memory, is kind of weird.
Speaker 1:It's a crazy thing of like you remember, but you don't really know that you're like, you don't know, but your brain does know.
Speaker 2:And just like yeah, your memory is not objective.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3:I couldn't, I could not. It was devastating.
Speaker 1:It was not what I expected, something kind of sad, but this was just like yeah, and then like also like everybody around him. That's what really really got to me like everybody else knew, everybody knows love him his best friend, yeah, has just known this entire time and because he bought the ecultorium next to his best friend's store.
Speaker 1:So like this whole time his best friend's just been like watching him yeah, yeah, so that's this crazy life and then, five years after lydia passes, he has like this break, oh yeah, and he goes to the house and he burns it down and he also Because nobody lived there.
Speaker 2:They made a point to say it was foreclosed on and empty.
Speaker 1:But he burns it down and then he tries to harm himself several times and that's why he has all the scars on his chest.
Speaker 2:But then he like called the cops and said that it was the same two guys or something.
Speaker 1:right, yeah From that His brain was, but he didn't know that there was those two guys.
Speaker 2:His brain is like all messed up, uh-huh yeah it's like it's under a layer of fog that he like can't see, but he knows it's there, yeah. And then so, after he woke up from the coma and he had his amnesia, he like adopted the kind of personality, more like, of his wife where he was really into the occult and supernatural, yeah, and likeistic guy that he was before, yeah, and now he had kind of like taken on his wife's.
Speaker 3:And how is it interesting like trauma sometimes turns other people into absolute assholes, pieces of shit, and then this severe, horrible trauma just turned him into the sweetest just.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I cried. So yeah, this book.
Speaker 2:And he says I was really sad and felt horrible. Oh my God, literally yeah.
Speaker 1:I cried so yeah, this book. And he says, oh my god, literally, and he they essentially tell him we love your uncle Calvin and we keep that story.
Speaker 1:You know, we keep it for him, for him and we were asking you to do the same yeah, like kind of let Jake in on the family secret yeah, and then we flash forward or we're in the present day and they're trick-or-treating and uncle calvin's there, side note. I thought uncle calvin was gonna die. I thought he was buckling up and I thought that's what this was. It's like his story of, like the progression of his brain tumor and these crazy stories that he was coming up. Anyway, he's alive.
Speaker 1:He's still a little crazy yeah, that's crazy yeah, but it shows Jake as a parent like let his kid interact with Uncle Calvin and have that same sort of like your uncle Calvin is great like he has these crazy stories and he believes in these ghosts and things like that, and that's okay, you know, like it's okay for him to be a little bit different.
Speaker 2:Because Jake's kid in the present day is only like two, I think.
Speaker 1:I think he's a little bit. I could be wrong. I think he's a little bit older. Oh, I thought you were yeah.
Speaker 2:Two, but anyways, uncle Calvin and of course Uncle Calvin's the coolest, so star rating what is your?
Speaker 3:star rating 3.5.
Speaker 2:I would say it's probably like a 4.12.
Speaker 3:Okay. You know, Out of five.
Speaker 1:That's all right, so I originally rated it three stars Okay. And then the more I talk about it and the more that I really dig into it. I think it was really good. So I'm going to bump it up to like a four.
Speaker 2:Nice, yeah, I agree, for, like the first half of reading the book, I was like I don't care about brain surgery. I don't care about these kids, little buddy, romantic interest is neat and like I love, I've always just like, really loved like coming of age stories of like kids and groups of kids like, uh, like the Goonies or you know, like the lost boys or I'm sure. If you just watch it. This is very much that Like the kids riding their bikes, you know just like skateboard, so does Sadie.
Speaker 2:That setting is just like so much fun in the show. But anyway, sorry, put it away.
Speaker 3:Duff Skateboards. That setting is just so much fun. Well, her name is Max in the show, but anyway, okay, sorry, I don't want to put it away. It's okay, they're on your side.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's get into fan cast. Okay, fan cast time. What's a fan cast? I've never heard of it. So a fan cast is We've done eight episodes of this podcast.
Speaker 3:Hey, I just read a book and don't remember a whole show. Fan cast is if we were going to make this a movie or a TV show, what actors, actresses, any celebrity would you choose to be that character?
Speaker 2:Or just person, you know.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Sure We'll get into it. Okay, do we want to do like one by one, or like Whichest person you know? Yep, sure, we'll get into it Okay.
Speaker 1:Do we want to do like one by one or like one character lead show?
Speaker 2:Like one character. Okay, who do you?
Speaker 1:want to start with Jake Jake. So for Jake, I did Ian Amatridge, which is Young Sheldon.
Speaker 2:That's very cute. Well, it's not bad, I would like to preface this.
Speaker 1:I'm not married to any of these. I had a really hard time with this fan cast, actually.
Speaker 2:Especially because they're such kids and we don't get really a ton of description about them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you go.
Speaker 2:I for Jake. Since I just mentioned the Goonies, did young Sean Astin From the Goonies he's like the main kid in the Goonies house played Sam in Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 3:Aw, I like that actor. He's good, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:But the Goonies is just like the perfect encapsulation of me, of that kind of vibe of this. There's a group of kids that's like doing little adventures and getting into trouble.
Speaker 3:Mine is Finn Wolfhand. Surprise, surprise, stranger Things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what I know.
Speaker 2:He's so cool and funny though I didn't know. You saw that.
Speaker 3:But like in the very first season, he's just not. Jake can be funny too, just not Really Like he's, if you watch this like he's so sweet, but like it fits enough. You're like oh.
Speaker 1:Let's do Billy.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:You're not going to know who this is, but his name is Isaac Arlenates and he is from what is this show? Stray Dogs, straw Reservation Dogs, reservation Dogs. He's from Reservation Dogs.
Speaker 2:I did bear with me.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is what he looks like. Oh yeah, Because Billy's cool.
Speaker 3:That's pretty good, billy's cool.
Speaker 2:That's cooler than mine, so I did. I'm so sorry. When he watches this podcast, defaro Wunatai, who is also from reservation dogs, but he's like the main guy, he's like the cool guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like, because that's what I was picturing billy being like a cool, sharp kind of dude okay, that was gonna be mine. I didn't want to have to pronounce his name, I didn't want to butcher it and I was like I'm just not going to do this to myself yeah, no, I don't have any self-respect anyway.
Speaker 2:Stop Okay, susie.
Speaker 3:We got another Stranger Things actor, joe Keery. He plays the kind of smart-ass, cool guy, so that's who I have for Billy.
Speaker 1:Dove, dove, dove.
Speaker 2:I think we're saving Uncle Calvin the last.
Speaker 1:The best. So mine is Devery Jacobs from Reservation Dogs, nice, and she's cool.
Speaker 2:A show that we haven't watched. We haven't watched it. We watched the first few episodes. She is pretty cool. That's a really good one. Yeah, that's good. She is pretty cool, that's a really good one. Yeah, that's good. I did Blue Hunt, who was the main girl from New Mutants.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's good, it's a terrible movie.
Speaker 2:I cannot recommend it any less.
Speaker 3:Right, damn. Okay, all right, get it for.
Speaker 1:Susie, this is a good one. Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 3:Who is yours? Sadie Sink Yep, susie Blade Dove, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:This is not Stranger Things, but it is Me. Excuse me, this is not yeah, this is the, but it is.
Speaker 2:This was the problem with the couch.
Speaker 3:This is why I had to be in the middle because they were both going to be looking you keep shoving it down.
Speaker 2:I just slowly make my way over to Susie whenever we're on this couch. I'll just make myself small.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, Uncle Calvin.
Speaker 1:Uncle Calvin so Hear me out. Oh God.
Speaker 2:I love a hear me out.
Speaker 1:Have you ever seen Suite Life of Zack and Chloe? Stop it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Brian Stepanek.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's really good actually.
Speaker 1:Hello, that's Uncle Calvin right there.
Speaker 2:That is a really good one. Yeah, facts, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, you're next. We need like a Susie. Sorry Okay, mine.
Speaker 2:Mine, mine's also a little Hear me out, but I think it was pretty good. It's just who I started picturing Off rip. I had Adam Driver.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's not that weird. I feel like you'd be A really good.
Speaker 2:Really really good, picturing it off-riff. I had Adam Driver oh, that's not that weird. I feel like he would be a really good, really really good. This like eccentric kooky, which also could be, because I watched Megalophilus recently. It was horrible. I could not recommend it any less, don't go watch it.
Speaker 1:Justin's going to start a movie review channel.
Speaker 3:It was when boys talk film. It was a disaster. It was when boys talk film.
Speaker 2:It was a disaster, but he's A really good actor, so I know that he could be Emotional on the end.
Speaker 1:He could pull it off.
Speaker 2:And he's also Pretty funny. Which Uncle Calvin is funny, but he's not necessarily like.
Speaker 1:This Adam Driver Okay.
Speaker 2:Uncle Calvin's hot sometimes Okay.
Speaker 1:You don't know him Back in the day, no, yeah. This Is Uncle Calvin. Oh, yeah, anyway, anyway.
Speaker 2:I just think that I get what you're saying like actor-wise. Yes.
Speaker 1:Like he's a good actor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he's funny and kooky and eccentric enough, he's just not old enough? No, but I think when, because Jake's only 12, so I don't think Uncle Calvin's supposed to be that old. For the majority of it, I think it's old. He's probably in his 40s. Yeah, anyway, susie, let's hear it Say.
Speaker 1:David Harper from Stranger Things.
Speaker 3:No, actually my character for Uncle C is Cy Robertson from Duck Dynasty. That's so good.
Speaker 1:That's not bad at all, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3:It's all I pictured the whole time. Yeah, was him holding some sweet and he going ghost kids the whole time. That's pretty good that checks out and like anyone that sees, uncle, si they're like, he's fine, he's a little he's a little weird, but he will hurt you and also again, I thought of how I picture Uncle Cal as a mix between your uncle and my grandpa. I'm going to send Connor a picture of my Uncle Steve so that we can honor every fan cast and honestly I think he would be thrilled.
Speaker 2:He's like I need to read this he's just like fun, just such a character he's a lot like jack black like yeah, yeah similar.
Speaker 3:If jack black and jim carrey had a son, it would be my uncle. Yes, okay, final thoughts better than I expected yeah it's a lot of story for a short book, yeah like.
Speaker 2:That's true, it was a pretty good payoff in the end. It wasn't until the last like 30 pages where you are like oh, my God, what. Yeah, that's fun. We didn't really touch on Dove, but him and Dove kind of their relationship kind of comes to a bit of a head at the end, where she like tells him that she likes him and he thinks they're going to kiss and then they don't kiss, and then Because they want different things in life, and then instead of like dating she, uh, she makes him promise that he'll be there to hold her when she dies, and then she moves, she has a girlfriend in the city and she is a sculptor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when he's a little. Yeah, he doesn't talk to her at all anymore, but him and billy are still best friends as adults went to college together yeah, billy, billy played professional football. And he tells uh that, yeah, dove became an artist and lives in San Francisco or LA or something and is still just wild and crazy so his wife is not Dove.
Speaker 3:Nope, I was shocked and disappointed if we're being so for real. I was like, oh okay, I say yep, you and me. You turned me into a romance girl. She was the cool age, edgy older girl he was the younger boy.
Speaker 1:And I was like no, well, it doesn't happen, but maybe in your fanfic it can happen.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:That you guys are co-writing Because you're co-hosts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, because it's like I'll just go yeah, fine, myhost yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, because it's like I'll just go yeah, fine, my idea, yep, okay. Final thoughts.
Speaker 2:Final thoughts.
Speaker 3:Excellent yeah.
Speaker 2:If you can push through the first half, which I found pretty boring and hard to want to read.
Speaker 1:It's like you don't know where it's going.
Speaker 3:Oh, also final thoughts in general of being on when Girls Talk books Like would you come back, do you like it?
Speaker 2:Oh boy, I don't know, I don't know if we have enough cameras to keep plugging in if I don't come back again. Okay, we've had a little camera trouble. I don't know if you know, but I have a lot of frame and really wears the boundaries out, so I bring some technical difficulties with me.
Speaker 1:That's exhausting. Lost the plot on that one it's okay, it's his first episode We'll cut him some slack.
Speaker 2:I hope to be invited back. Yes, I did have fun. I'm, you know, great to be here at Bones. Bones, what did you think? I agree, I couldn't have said it better myself. Well said, bones.
Speaker 3:Here we go. There we go. Get off of me, god. Her husband is right here. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I liked it. I think the more I think about it, the more I like it. Yeah, I agree, it's embarrassing. Anyway, I liked it. I think the more I think about it, the more I like it, I agree.
Speaker 2:It definitely, like you said, it all tied up.
Speaker 1:It's got layers.
Speaker 2:It tied all the stuff that seemed useless and like a waste of time to the first time. I tied it all up nicely and brought it back to.
Speaker 3:He was even using our reference, tied it up in a little bow.
Speaker 2:He moved it Yep, yep.
Speaker 3:Good job Don't get handsy with the skeleton.
Speaker 1:He started it. He's like I just your hair is so luscious. Okay, I think I'm done. Yep, thanks guys. Bye Next time. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
