When Girls Talk Books

Ep.10 The Things We Leave Unfinished By Rebecca Yarros

When Girls Talk Books Season 1 Episode 10

What happens when an unfinished manuscript reveals the tangled web of family betrayal, artistic integrity, and wartime love? Join us as we unravel the emotional depths of Rebecca Yarros' "The Things We Leave Unfinished." We started with skepticism, unsure of the novel's emotional pull, only to be left in tears by its poignant narrative. Through dual timelines, we navigate the gripping tales of Georgia, her great-grandmother Scarlett, and the unforgettable characters they meet. The book's exploration of enduring family legacies and complex relationships has left a significant impression on us, as we debate its impact on our hearts and minds.

Our discussion takes a closer look at the intricate dynamics of Georgia's modern-day struggles with her mother, Ava, and the contrasting love stories across time. The early 1940s romance of Scarlett and Jameson captivates with its forbidden charm, while Georgia's present-day relationship with Noah invites a critique of literary trust and betrayal. We explore themes of sacrifice and identity through the parallel journeys of Scarlett and her sister Constance, against the tumultuous backdrop of World War II. The narrative intricately weaves together past and present, leaving us pondering the choices and sacrifices that shape our lives.

To conclude our engaging exploration, we indulge in the dream of a book-to-screen adaptation, handpicking our ideal actors for beloved characters. From the dramatic events surrounding Scarlett and Constance to Georgia and Noah's modern-day challenges, we celebrate the emotional journey and timeless themes of love and sacrifice. As we share our reading adventures and recent book recommendations, we invite you to join the conversation by engaging with us through comments and suggestions, enriching our shared literary experiences.

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Speaker 1:

Hello, hello everyone, and welcome to another story time with when girls talk books. I'm Kylie, I'm Susie, and Today we're gonna talk about a book that should never been written.

Speaker 2:

Yes, because it should be sponsored by Kleenex, because it's saddest, saddest.

Speaker 1:

Oh my, my god which we, I kind of knew going into it at least I thought everyone was over exaggerating.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's also just gonna be a hundred percent, I like. I will call myself I caught it, I caught it. Uh, I really thought it was like, yeah, okay, like I'm just not that emotional of a person yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I don't have emotions, heartless, yeah, depending on who you ask but I cried so like I. I needed 25 minutes to gather myself when I finished this book yeah, we uh both cried at the end.

Speaker 1:

I finished it before Susie and had to like take a break, like I literally had to set it down because I was like it's literally like when I pick this up I better not have just fucking read what I read.

Speaker 2:

Like.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to be so mad Like this, simply could not be.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, rub your eyes, try again.

Speaker 1:

Damn it. Yeah, drink, drink. So the book that we read yeah, sorry is the things we leave unfinished. By rebecca yaros yes, who is, uh, the fourth wing author? No, yeah she wrote the fourth wing iron flame and I will be busy when the third one comes out, so my phone will be on. Do not disturb, I will be out of uh office all day, just an FYI.

Speaker 2:

Do not bother.

Speaker 1:

You Do not Because I've got to read that day of or else there's going to be spoilers and I can't handle that because I'll be pissed. Anyway, heard. So I think fantasy is like her newest thing, but she has multiple books that are kind of centered around military type.

Speaker 2:

I think I would definitely read another one of her books. Relationships. I like those military type.

Speaker 1:

I think I would definitely read another one relationships. Yeah, what was your star rating? Uh, four out of five. Four, yeah, five. It made you cry and you gave it a four. That made me like it more.

Speaker 2:

If it gets me like emotionally worked up or like upset, like that's a good author. Sorry, that's that's yeah. If it like wants to devastate me, I'll give you five stars. Like give me something even sadder than this. I double dog, dare you? I don't think there is anything sadder, but but it's not five stars.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I don't think so. Anyway, it's okay. It's your rating. I think you're apparently it's not. You're having some conflicting, uh, opinions here. Yeah, it was devastating. Give me more devastating than five stars, but I don't think it can get worse. What do you mean? I have a walking contradiction. That's fine. This was five stars for me, okay, because I loved it.

Speaker 2:

You loved it, but it's so sad. Why did you love it? Why did you give it five stars if it made you cry?

Speaker 1:

I don't think that had the same effect. You think you could still love something and it'd be sad. Um, there was another book I read after this that I also gave five. I had a good reading month. I gave two books.

Speaker 1:

You had a lot of reading months yeah, I did an october tbr and I stuck to it for the first time in my entire life round of applause, and I read seven books in october, so I was very accomplished. Can't remember what they are for right now, but I did read. But you did it. Oh, I read the housemaid, freedom mcfadden. I think camille's reading that she did. We were messaging each other about it.

Speaker 1:

She just finished the second one. I finished this first one. Everybody, stop what you're doing. If you want a thriller, just really quick. I'm just gonna put this in here. That book was so good. It was so good five stars. I read the whole thing in like a day.

Speaker 2:

It was so y'all, she reads a lot of books in a day, though, so like like she's a well-deserved hype.

Speaker 1:

That one was so good. I'll have to give that book a try. I'm so sorry anyway, so that that was my other five star of the month. Okay, let's get into it, because there's a lot. There's a lot that goes on in this book.

Speaker 1:

It is a lot happens here centered around world war ii and then also modern day and it's like a family lineage story. So we start with georgia, who is a hollywood kind of scarlet in a way. Her grandmother's name is great grandmother, but uh, she is from hollywood. Her husband was a producer, a big hot shot. And we start out with her getting divorced and she has to go back to her hometown to like change her name, uh, back, which just uh, that'd be so crappy I, and then like the people in the office, she knows, yeah of

Speaker 1:

course, yep, that's a whole thing, uh. But so she's changing her back, her name back to georgia stanton, and her great-grandmother is a author of romance and is like very praised in the romance industry big deal, she's a big, big deal. She has her own bookstore in the hometown but she has since passed away and so now georgia owns the bookstore and when she goes to the bookstore she runs into this guy who's on the phone and he's very mad about the printed edition of these books and he's like, excuse me, do both of these look the same? And she's like, yep, those look the same. And he's like I chose. And he's like, excuse me, do both of these look the same? And she's like, yep, those look the same. And he's like I chose. And he's like on the phone and he's so mad and they have like a argument kind of per se or more of like like a tit for tat yeah yeah, in the bookstore of well, all these guys, books are the same.

Speaker 1:

You know, this happens, this happens. And then the story ends up sad and she really kind of like tears into him and he's like oh really. And she's like, yeah, and he's like I suppose not like these books, but she's holding her great grandma scarlet's books and she's like no, she's the best romance author that ever existed and so they have like this tit for tat and then like but also there's an immediate attraction between them.

Speaker 2:

The spark is there. Yes, you could feel it in a book. Yes, they weren't even actually there.

Speaker 1:

And then she ends up leaving. So she goes and we get to her great-grandma's house and her mom is there.

Speaker 2:

Her mom is Ava, who's just a real fucking, a real fucking piece I couldn't decide who I hated more in this book her mother or her ex-husband I think her mom's worse yeah, yeah just be yeah, okay, she does a lot of really bad things.

Speaker 1:

She's like frank gallagher, but like female form, oh my gosh, that's such a great, but like she pretends to not be, yeah, which kind of I guess that.

Speaker 2:

What was the mom's name in shameless monica monica? Yeah, so she's kind of like monica and frank yeah.

Speaker 1:

But so she gets home and her mom's like oh honey if my name was georgia, I would hate that nickname, yeah she's like what are you doing here? Oh, oh, these guys that are in her room, oh, they're just here. And then she's like what are you doing here? Oh, oh, these guys that are in her room, oh, they're just here. And then she's like she goes and introduces herself I'm Georgia Santon, and they're like you're Georgia. And she's like yep, and he's like oh, so you're not Georgia, and so Ava.

Speaker 2:

Her mom's sweating.

Speaker 1:

Ava was pretending to be Georgia. We're twin sisters. Yeah, can you tell if we're sisters or mother and daughter?

Speaker 2:

like that's her vibe.

Speaker 1:

She was pretending to be georgia, because georgia has rights to all of her great grandma's literary, kind of money makers kind of, but it's like they had a word for it, like she controls everything where it goes, who gets sold to the rights, if they're doing movie rights, things like that, she has control of the whole thing. Literary trust, I think, is what she says yep and some other yep.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's correct um, and so ava was trying to sell, to sell the book that was unfinished from. We have the manuscripts, the manuscripts, the letters from Great Grandma Scarlet and she never ended up finishing it. So it was like her one book unfinished and it is based off real life of her Grandpa Jameson and their story and Georgette is pissed, she is so mad and then Betrayal, ava inevitably ends up kind of like talking her into just hearing them out about it and because she wasn't left anything by her grandma.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, guilt to manipulate Georgia into it and I just hate that so much.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but also I understand, because it happens, yeah, and this is the only book that she would have, like any sort of monetary.

Speaker 2:

Value.

Speaker 1:

Come on brain Words, not monetary value, let me share the brain.

Speaker 2:

Cell value come on brain. Yeah, words, let me share the brain.

Speaker 1:

So um, like she get monetary proceeds from, like the rest a lot of the literary trust it goes to like charities and things like that and george's husband has some of the other ones already too, so they couldn't really do anything with him.

Speaker 1:

He, he has movie rights. So he got six movie rights in the production company and he's made three, and so he has three more movie rights, which just makes me so mad. Yeah, but because this book is unfinished and it's not in the literary trust, then she can kind of give that the money from the book and, if they make a movie and things like that, to her mom.

Speaker 2:

And so she's like but, julia, I broke after I left my 73rd husband.

Speaker 1:

She's also been marrying a lot. You know I bought four jaguars.

Speaker 2:

I have to pay for them somehow. How would I ever?

Speaker 1:

the chanel bag, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2:

Like god, oh, my amazon package on the botox like god don't hate on it, but like don't make other people pay for it, pay for your damn self um, but so she kind of talks her into sitting down and at least talking with the two gentlemen that are there, um about it.

Speaker 1:

So then, just like to preface this book has so much back and forth, so like, in order to tell the story properly we have to do the back and forth. So we get to, uh, 1940, july of 1940 in england, and uh, the first part of all of these kind of before chapters have like a love letter written from scarlet to jameson or jameson to scarlet yes, there are which are her great grandparents. And then the first one, you find out that scarlet and jameson are separated and he is in some sort of military position and he's away and she has baby william and they're a lot of. These are basically just how much they're missing each other and scarlet, oh scarlet once you get into sweet though.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but like yeah once you get into jameson and scarlet's love story, I could care less about georgia and noah. I do not care why.

Speaker 2:

I don't care why did it take like this so the book is like. You know this thing why did it take half of the book for noah and george to get? Interesting anything and then not that great, and then like what felt, like the last four pages see, I still didn't feel like that, like throughout the whole book. You were over it the whole time.

Speaker 1:

Great got it like congrats, that's great love, that for you. Happy healed life. Um, I don't fucking care. Yeah, okay, I did not care about noah, that's all right in georgia even came around, even in the slightest.

Speaker 1:

Okay, oh wow I think noah was pretty nice, like he ended up being like a nice guy and whatever the things he did were nice. But other than that, I don't care about their love story, which a little bit jumping ahead here at some point in the story since we're on the topic of me hating this, yeah, since we're on the topic of it, at some point noah like says something to georgia of like the love story isn't about scarlett and jameson, it's you and I the audacity that was a, but you know it does say from the beginning of the book he is so egotistical, like noah's sister has to check, yeah, all the time like that made me want to like throw something at his head.

Speaker 1:

Like I felt like that was so disrespectful to this entire book, like that pulled me out of it so quickly, like I was so like from that point I was like I don't like you get out of here, bye, bye, you're dead to me, sorry.

Speaker 2:

Um, so back to 1940 in july in england, oh yeah, and I don't, I'm a little like how many notes did I put in there of that? Oh yeah, for chapter three.

Speaker 1:

Yes, right here, page 40. So we start with Scarlett and Constance. They are sisters, scarlett is the great-grandmother of Georgia, are in the Women's Auxiliary Air Force for the British military and they are coming back from a trip to see their parents, and their parents have they come from a wealthy family, like an old, an old money, old school yeah but they're kind of out of money but they still have the running out yep, they still have the name, so they have a little bit of a pull.

Speaker 1:

so that's how scarlet and constance are getting stationed together, how they are able to kind of take leave to go see their parents. They have a little bit of a pull, so that's how Scarlett and Constance are getting stationed together, how they are able to kind of take leave to go see their parents. They have a certain amount of privilege with the name, but so they're coming back and they are waiting for a train or a car or something like that to get them to base.

Speaker 2:

essentially, and, oh yeah, their unreliable friend was the one that was supposed to pick them up.

Speaker 1:

Pick them up in the car that the military has.

Speaker 2:

So many like oh I swear, I'll come get you, and then you're like, and they're like you didn't come get me, we should have known better.

Speaker 1:

That part was funny. So good old jameson pulls up, I love her so much.

Speaker 2:

Me too. It's okay, I really did too. As cheesy as he is, don't even care, wholesome yeah um.

Speaker 1:

But so he pulls up and he's like oh well, I'm going to the same place, can I give you guys a ride? And scarlet is like nope. And constant's like come, scarlet, come on, let him give us a ride. And she's like it's hot out here. It's like a three-mile walk. If we wanted to walk, like we're going to be dead by the time we get there, like let him give us a ride.

Speaker 2:

He's not going to unalive us. Okay, we're all right. She's like we're all right, I suppose.

Speaker 1:

And so they get into the car and we find out that Scarlett has found out while she's home that she is to be wed. She is betrothed, yes, to Henry Wadsworth, who is kind of just a gross human being, and it's very apparent that he is abusive to staff or whoever. He's just not a good man, and she's like I'm not marrying him I don't care, I'm not marrying a monster I'm not doing it. And uh, constance has been engaged forever. She like childhood friend.

Speaker 1:

Or edgar, yeah, edward, edward sorry um, they have just been together forever, like like childhood sweethearts, very much in love. So she's not going to marry him because she's already got something going on. So Scarlet is to be wed and he will carry on the name, essentially for her parents. Disgusting. All about duty and honor.

Speaker 2:

Be like wow, you think you're the queen, huh, yeah, well, it's her parents' expectations.

Speaker 1:

Not the daughters, but the parents.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the parents are like wow, you guys think you're of the royal family yeah, and they need to produce a son.

Speaker 1:

They need an heir and carry on the name and yeah, it's a whole thing. It's disgusting. She's very much. I'm not marrying him. And. And Constance is like, okay, you sure about that? Are you sure about that? Because she doesn't want to. She knows her sister is very strong-willed and is very feisty and that's kind of been brought up throughout the book. But at the same time her parents are kind of telling her you have to do this, like hey, it's going to happen, but she is just infatuated with jameson immediately even though she doesn't want to ride from him.

Speaker 1:

he is a very good looking man and he is a yankee, which means american, so that's kind of like intriguing to her. And he is an american flying for the British Army. He's a pilot yeah, a pilot and when he takes him back to their barracks I don't know if that's what they're called- in the British. Army. But he asks Scarlett out on a date and she's like no, and he's like come on.

Speaker 1:

Come on, he was persistent he was very persistent, and so she finally does give in and they have this date and it's the best date ever, and he flies her off of base wherever and there's like this field and there's a table so they can have dinner or it's like a picnic. And then there is the uh, music, what is that actually called record player? Yeah, but it's with the something, a phone phonograph. Yeah, the phonograph. Well, that's an important part of the story. Okay, so there's the phonograph.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, um, I was just in here, like, well, that's an important part of the story okay so there's the phonograph there and they have a dance, and then they have to get back, and so he doesn't kiss her because they have to get back and then, but he does let her fly the plane, which was like, and he's like do you trust me?

Speaker 2:

and she's like I guess yeah yeah, I would have promptly been like no, I don't, like, I don't know you, but here I are.

Speaker 1:

But like the amount of effort that went into this date is very like astonishing to her. It doesn't happen anymore. They're in the middle of war times and he's like set up this whole date. If he wanted to, he would ladies, if he wanted to, he would. All his friends helped him like set this all up and like take stuff out and then they're gonna come and get it later. Like there was a ton of effort put into this date. Because he is very infatuated with her as well, immediately, because she has striking blue eyes the stanton, the stanton blue I thought that was so fucking cheesy when I was reading this.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry the whole time. I'm just like Jesus Christ. It's literally just blue. But alright, no Stanton blue. I want Sherman Williams to make a shade.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that'd be hilarious. Present day, she is sitting down talking to the people and Ava gets to the door and she's like, oh, so happy to see you. That's smart and walks in noah from the book harrison and he is an author, and he's a very famous author really, but she obviously doesn't know that that's him. Um, but his real name is noah, more led, more leddy. I think his last name is not actually harrison, that's his like pen name.

Speaker 1:

Oh, which always confuses me just like I'm not, not even like I want to do that, just I'm like wow, I never would have thought of that but then I'm like well lots of other celebrities do it, but I think it may be, and this is just my thoughts, and this could totally be wrong, but like back in the day, like women weren't really allowed to, be writers and things like that. So I think a lot of times that's how pen names came to be because that makes sense I think at one point it was illegal.

Speaker 2:

So of course, anything they would bring us joy or that we're good gonna.

Speaker 1:

No, you can't do that not allowed, um, but so noah is gonna be the one to kind of finish the book for the story.

Speaker 2:

Um, he thinks this is a done deal he has yeah, he's like oh cool, I'm just showing up for my first day to start going over this, like everybody wants me to do it.

Speaker 1:

Letters is kind of what he thinks and that is not the case. Surprise, and his uh editor is also his friend and he's like so, um, we were lied to, essentially. And georgia like isn't really going for it. You need to convince her, like you need to convince her how to do this. And he ends up telling her that, um, when his mom got into an accident, he would read all of scarlet's books to her while she was in the hospital, which is very sweet and it means a lot to him, and like how great of an author her great-grandmother was. And, um, like it's really important that he does this properly, and like it's a, it's a whole thing. And she's like, okay, not so much, but she's like, fine, I wish you could have heard the guy that the audio book people.

Speaker 1:

The narrator.

Speaker 2:

The narrator's accent for her is really funny Because he does a really good job of like very smooth.

Speaker 1:

But it almost sounds like everything she says is like okay, you're like, but so that he she ends up saying yes, and they signed the contract, but she says you're not taking the manuscript and letters anywhere. They stay in this house, they do not leave here, but I'll email you copies of everything that you need. So back in time, back to the 40s, back to the 40s. Uh, the battle of britain has begun and they are driving. And jameson finds out that scarlet is engaged.

Speaker 2:

And at this point, he really likes her I was not okay.

Speaker 1:

I was like I was stressing I think it's it was so hard because I know that they get together. Obviously these love letters are, like you know, years in the future and things like that. So I knew everything was gonna be fine but still.

Speaker 2:

But I was like, oh my gosh, and he like gets out of the car and he's like on the airfield, essentially, and he's like what am I just a joke to you like he feels so betrayed, essentially now, remember everyone, I'm on jamis inside, but I always think it's funny that when a guy gets upset like that, like they don't let you explain, yeah, but when they're the ones that are mad at, well, just let me explain. Just hang on. No, hang on. I'm like, hmm, interesting.

Speaker 1:

Isn't that interesting? Well, jameson is a good guy, he is he's a good man, savannah.

Speaker 2:

This was like his one flaw.

Speaker 1:

Leave it to Susie to find it Well like even he kind of has a moment of like he just needed to feel that like he apologizes later for his behavior, but he just needed to kind of like deal with it. Yeah, like it was such a shock to him, like do you love him he's kind of well at this point. He's kind of like in love with scarlet, like they are very much like two moths to a flame for sure that hair was stuck on my eyelash.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry that was just.

Speaker 1:

The whole time I've been like pay attention, pay attention and then, uh, the airfield ends up getting bombed, and so he like jumps on top of scarlet and like please don't let her die.

Speaker 2:

I was so stressed. I'm like I know they can't die already.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so he's like terrified that something's gonna happen to scarlet, so, like it went from he was so mad at her to like the protection thing. And it seems like every time something like this happens, they have like this emotional epiphany afterwards, just so the bombing happens. And then hey, back to the present day because, oh yeah here you're emotionally upset.

Speaker 2:

Anything could happen, noah being boring and full of himself like, okay, cool. Or damien's back to be a douche okay, yay, can't wait.

Speaker 1:

I think that's why I had such a hard time with the georgia noah storyline.

Speaker 2:

I don't care like we were just I don't care that you have trust issues and that you know somebody else is rich like I don't care, I think this might be a hot take.

Speaker 1:

I think this book would have been better if noah and georgia weren't in it like 100.

Speaker 2:

This would have given me that's. You want that five. That's how you get it.

Speaker 1:

If this was just the storyline in the 1940s, it would have been so good. It would have been so good. You could have added a lot to it, but I kind of get we understand its purpose, but we wish that yeah it. Instead of it getting half the book, it could have gotten a third yeah, so then we're back in present day and noah wants to write the ending to be a happy ending, because all of scarlett stanton's books have happy endings.

Speaker 1:

That's kind of like her what she's known for what she's known for and that's what her readers expect. And he's like if we don't have that, it's going to ruin my career, like I'm gonna forever be known as the guy who ruined scarlet stanton's legacy, essentially and georgia is very much. No, you give them the ending like it happened. It wasn't a happy ending, so, hey heads up, not a happy ending.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it's not like they all thought that we cried. Yeah, a whole bunch of people I didn't.

Speaker 1:

I didn't cry at all. I'm the ice queen, like georgia, um, but so they have this really big disagreement on how the book is supposed to end. Georgia wants it to be how it ended in real life, and that is with scarlet forever waiting for jameson to come home and he doesn't. And noah thinks it needs to be a happy ending because that's scarlet stan's legacy this is what deserve. Sorry, and he talks a lot about that Like don't you want to give Scarlett that ending that she deserves?

Speaker 1:

No it's not real. Yep, I get it. So then back to the bombs. Yep, and they're fine, she's fine. She is really scuffed up on her knees and Jameson is like, are you okay? And he, she's like yes, and he's like you have to go.

Speaker 2:

Are you hurt?

Speaker 1:

prepare for horrible british accents. That was so spot on though. Um. So then he's like you need to go, and so she's like okay, and so she gets back in the car with Constance and their other friend and they go to work.

Speaker 2:

Essentially, oh yeah, I forgot they had like really stressful jobs too.

Speaker 1:

Well, it was like a big deal, Like their jobs were a big deal, and she talks about like outranking certain people of the military because of what she does and it's very secretive and things like that. Oh yeah, and they couldn't discuss things.

Speaker 2:

They can't talk about it at all. I would never make it. I am such a yapper. Yeah, They'd be like this is classified. I'd be like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

Sure. So Kylie, guess what?

Speaker 2:

Me and Cubs. What did I say? I hey.

Speaker 1:

I literally don't even remember saying that. I think you guys made that up. Are you trying to gaslight me? I don't like your tone, check yourself. But so their jobs is essentially like I think they call it, plotting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like they're figuring out where the airplanes are going, right.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so they get it's like a chart type thing is the way that I pictured it and they get information received from other people and then they put it on the map where, like, the enemy is and then where their guys are, and so their guys know where to go to like get there. It's very like technical, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I'm like imagining numbers and algebra stuff swirling around us while you're talking about it.

Speaker 1:

I kind of pictured about like old school, like telephone monitor things, where it oh yeah, Okay, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2:

That's kind of like what I pictured.

Speaker 1:

I don't think that's accurate at all, but that's what I was picturing. But so she ends up working like 12 hours straight.

Speaker 2:

She is very fatigued, but she like needs to know that jameson is okay and so that was the night she was there and like no one came to replace her. But she's watching other people like yeah, okay, yeah, well, she wouldn't leave also, so at some point they're like you gotta go home and she, uh, when she gets off, jameson is there and she's like oh, thank goodness you're okay.

Speaker 1:

And he's like I've been worried about you, like I couldn't get to you, you were working and they exchange, I love you's. Because traumatic event happens, emotional epiphany. Present day, present day georgia. Uh, mom, her mom leaves as soon as she gets her advance.

Speaker 2:

So she and this is a rec, this is a regular thing that georgia discusses throughout the book is that her mom, like emotionally, physically and financially abandons her every step, every step of the way her great grandmother basically raised her. She did raise her and her every step of the way her great-grandmother basically raised her she did raise her and her mom dropped her off yeah, her mom comes and goes very infrequently, usually when a relationship doesn't work out or she needs cash.

Speaker 2:

Her mom was written out of the will and she like blames georgia for it a little bit and like it's all projection. Her mom needs so much therapy, like really needs a lot I.

Speaker 1:

I hate her mother yeah, her mom is kind of the worst and she's like and I think what's so sad is like watching georgia, like think that it's gonna be different, like I thought you were saying for christmas, like she kind of thought this was gonna be their time to really connect, because she's always looking for that from her.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's her mom.

Speaker 1:

Benefit of the doubt yeah and uh she's like well husband number four or whatever, and I were like gonna get together. And she's like, oh goody, great, whatever. So she leaves and in the meantime georgia and noah have been arguing a lot about the ending of the book. And Georgia keeps hanging up on Noah. When she gets pissed off, she just hangs up the phone and he's like I'm going to freak out. And he's big on deadlines and he's like I'm not going to meet the deadline if we don't figure this out. I have to have an ending to the book and I've never not made a deadline.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Him and his ego Him and I've never not made a deadline.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, him and his ego, him and his perfect work career. Um, I guess I should say like, as annoying as their storyline is, I think noah is a pretty good guy no 100 he is.

Speaker 2:

It's just in the beginning, like they had to make it so clear that he's a pompous ass, like until we were so almost written him off. And then it was like, okay, yeah, but like for the first I don't know 150 pages, I was like, yeah, like not in for real.

Speaker 1:

Um. So then noah decides well, fine, I'm gonna show up at your house and I also rented the airbnb that's basically on the property, um, for the rental company. And so he shows up and she's like, are you fucking kidding me? And her mom had just left. So she's like not ready to deal with, not emotionally, in a great place yeah, let's not forget that.

Speaker 2:

She's also emotionally wrecked because her divorce is like making its way through the tabloids her producer husband like they were trying to have a child and he cheated on her with other people.

Speaker 1:

And it's having a baby with his secretary or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so like just the cherry on top, I'm just like yeah, so because she was infertile.

Speaker 1:

Essentially, he was like well, moving on, moving, moving on to this younger girl.

Speaker 1:

Essentially is what it was special place in hell for you, mr damien so then, uh, back in the 1940s, jameson proposes to scarlet and she says no on their third date I think it was two days, three after meeting each other, um, but she says no and he's gonna be stationed somewhere else. And so they're like trying to figure out how this is gonna work and like if she can um get stationed there, uh, but she doesn't want to leave her sister. That's a big running theme of they don't want to leave.

Speaker 1:

They do everything together yeah, well, they're very like cause their parents are so shitty, essentially Like they're all they got, that's all the family she has, essentially Um. So after that they end up getting leave to go visit for their mom's birthday and it does not go well cause they say and not for the reason you think.

Speaker 2:

You know, you think like oh, it's because their mom's mean.

Speaker 1:

It's like no, no, their mom's really not, she just is spineless.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's weak. Yeah, she has spaghetti for spine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're like sitting at dinner and her mom says something about like oh, we got a lot of plans to make for next summer and Scarlett has told them she's not marrying this Henry guy. But they don't like, they literally just don't hear her. And she's like well, what for? And she's like the wedding, of course. And she's like I'm not marrying him. She freaks out I'm not marrying that man. Yeah, and she is like I am in love and he is an American pilot, I love him, but, daddy, I love him. Yep, and they don't care what she has to say and they essentially tell her if you do not marry him, we are disowning you. And she's like fine, so be it. And then she asked constance, how does she feel about putting in for a transfer? That ends then back to noah jordan I'm, I'm, I would just like to apologize, I have the same energy, yeah um, and noah is like you're never gonna trust me, um, so I think we need to do these trust exercises.

Speaker 2:

And he takes her rock climbing yeah, I'll leave it to a man that doesn't actually know that much about this woman's situation to be like I'm gonna try to fix you, because I'm so great already that if you do this thing that makes me better. It'll definitely make you better. And it's like hey, fuck face. Did you think that maybe I don't want to do that?

Speaker 1:

I don't think you like Noah, sorry, but she kind of has like a freak out because she doesn't want to put her life in one would her life in his hands. Because, well, he's like an experienced rock climber and he's like I'll hold on to the rope like you'll be fine, and she's like I can't trust you and I'm scared going up a ladder to put up curtains. I wouldn't be climbing well it wasn't about the height of it, it was like I mean yeah, who's scared of heights?

Speaker 1:

it wasn't about the height. It was like was like she's been let down. There was this whole analogy of she's been let down by everybody in her life and so she can't trust that he's going to hold the rope or play the smallest violin. While they rock climb. It was a whole thing.

Speaker 2:

It was like pages and pages, guys, like an entire chapter of will she climb, will she not? Will she climb, will she not? People passing by? Will I do it, will I not? Oh my god, just fucking get on the rock, get on the rock.

Speaker 1:

Suzy, I'm not getting on that rock, but you have to. Well, she, he's like that's okay, you don't have to. And I think this is like when we Well, she, he's like, that's okay, you don't have to. And I think this is like when we, once George's mom leaves and he sees that she is not in good shape, he like makes her tea and things like that. And this is where you start to see like the flip side of Noah.

Speaker 2:

We start coming around.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and he was like that's okay, like you don't have to do it, like I just thought it'd be fun, fun like a trust exercise, like it's all right, we can just like hike up here. And she was like are you sure? And he's like, yeah, not a, not a big deal, like okay, and so they end up just hiking the trail. There's a whole thing and all that again.

Speaker 2:

You're going through all of that for nothing basically to happen. Meanwhile, in the 40s, we're hanging on by a thread, literally.

Speaker 1:

That's why we didn't like this because it like pulls you out, like immediately. Because it like pulls you out Like immediately, once something is happening, it pulls you out and it's like well, I kind of get it, because I probably wouldn't like care. Well, I think it made it worse that I didn't care of what was happening actually, because I just wanted to be back to what we were dealing with in the 40s. So, anyway, jameson is moved to the 71st Eagle Squadron, which is a bunch of American pilots and they're like all sitting around having their beers or whatever, and just a bunch of bros being dudes. And they're like I heard you got a little lady. And he's like yep, sure do. And he's like she got any friends? Nope, she doesn't have any friends. Like he's kind of like, you know, chatting with him and stuff.

Speaker 2:

But not wanting to give up too much, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But he has one buddy and I don't remember what his name is. I'm so sorry, howard, yeah, and he's kind of like they talk about it more of like that's his bro Jameson's very much in love with Scarlett, jameson's very much in love with Scarlett and he doesn't just want to entertain these guys with it, because a bunch of bros being dudes, and Howard ends up going oh well, she's here. And he's like what? And he's up out of the room and goes to her and they have this whole reunion and she's like well, we got stationed here so they can be together. And they end up going, going for a walk. And, um, she's essentially like ask me again. And he's like are you kidding me right now? Like don't be pulling my leg about this? And she's like, well, you won't know unless you ask me. And so he does. He has her to marry her him, and she says yes, this time. And he's like great, let's do it now.

Speaker 2:

And she's like whoa, whoa, whoa that's my favorite with her is she like he'll want something. She'll say no. Then she'll come around to it and he'll be like great. Then she's like oh, no, well, he's like.

Speaker 1:

I said that myself sometimes he's like tonight and she's like. I am not having my wedding night sleeping next to a bunch of these yay hoos and I want my dress. I would like to hang it up to get it prepared. We have to get approval from you know, chain he's like oh right, rules yeah, logic like oh okay, and but he does everything.

Speaker 2:

James is quite romantic like he really do be. They just don't make him like that anymore.

Speaker 1:

She's tough bitch um, but of course we're pulled out before the wedding and um, we're back to georgia and her friend hazel and they're having like morning breakfast and hazel was like team noah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, long before we ever were I think she was.

Speaker 1:

Um, she's the friend that saw there was something happening between them before they did you know that kind of thing, um, but she has her kids there and they're just running wild. And then, um, noah and georgia, at this point, are starting to get along. They've been like texting and talking and stuff like that. And she tells him the door's unlocked, you can just come in. When you get here and he comes to the door and like the kids like run into him and he comes in the kitchen.

Speaker 1:

He's like really good with them, yeah, he goes into the kitchen and he's like got them both and it's like this whole like ovary explosion for georgia because, you know, once you hit an age that starts getting real cute um facts that age like slammed into me like a freight train.

Speaker 2:

Uh, let's see. When was halloween? Just a few days ago.

Speaker 1:

I'm like so that hit you when Sebastian was born.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

That first meeting with Eric and Sebastian, she said Something happened Dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee-dee, 100% was like we need to have children, must have children now.

Speaker 2:

All of a sudden like don't care about that, don't care about that, don't care about that, but care about that, um.

Speaker 1:

But so she like no, it's like oh, no, and she ends up like giving hazel like a banana in her purse and it's like, okay, you guys have a great day oh yeah, she always forgets to eat, yeah because she's like she's running around with those kids all day. She forgets to take care of herself. So she takes care of, which is so so sweet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I couldn't decide if I was gonna say nice or sweet so it came out like so sight um, and so noah is there so they can kind of have a an argument essentially, but it's he thinks of it as a business meeting. She's like you're ready to fight because they still have not agreed on an ending. And he's like, well, why don't we take a walk? And so they walk around the property. And this property is just insane. It has all the plants you can think of like beautiful gardens.

Speaker 1:

There's a gazebo there like, like my paradise yeah, and she ends up going and like to the gazebo and she's like this is where grandma scarlet wrote all her books and this is where she sat and she waited for jameson and he never came, and that's the story that needs to be told. Yep, yep, you got it um, and so they know they don't agree, and then she leaves and it's like, okay, well, that got us nowhere. She storms off Yep. And so then, after that, scarlett and Jameson get married.

Speaker 2:

And it's super great Um marriage, um marriage.

Speaker 1:

And it's cute and sweet and great and he got them like housing off base so they can like have their home life, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then like she doesn't tell him that she can't cook, no, Because she, like, grew up with staff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and so he's like really nervous to show her the house and she's like, oh, and he's like in his mind you hate it, it's ugly, like oh, and he's like in his mind like you hate it, it's ugly, it's horrible like I can't provide for you and like all these things and she's like, so Eric would be like she hates it and she's like I guess now is probably a good time to tell you I can't cook, and he's like oh well, that's all right, no big deal, I can cook and she's like no, like, really, I can't cook anything, and he's like that's okay.

Speaker 1:

Like I can make some eggs and bacon, it'll be all right. And she's like, okay, and then they go upstairs and they get it on and it's, yep, very romantic oh, this book is spicy, okay and uh, those two like cannot get enough of each other.

Speaker 1:

They are very much like twin flame in love, disgusting love, yep, um. So that happens. They have their little moment and then we're back to present day and noah I don't exactly remember how this happens, but noah and georgia eventually agree that noah will write two different versions of the book one with the story that she wants and one with the story that he wants and she has final say. I don't remember how they come to that agreement. I think he just says it like what about this?

Speaker 2:

and she's like well, and I want to say that another meeting happens with the, the friend of his Adam, maybe that's what his name is, the editor, yeah, or his sister is probably what it is.

Speaker 1:

Yes, something comes about. Because he talks to his sister a lot.

Speaker 2:

She's great too, like his sister was great.

Speaker 1:

And she's like pull your head out of your ass, like have some respect. This is her great-grandmother that raised her.

Speaker 2:

Like hello. I probably would have like fan-casted you for her, if we're being 100% real.

Speaker 1:

I think I remember what it is Adam. And he says have you ever Googled Georgia Stanton? Oh, okay, have you ever Googled her and like found out her life and like she's been kind of told what to do and this and that? That's when he's like oh's like her backstory. Yes, and then he's like, okay, yeah, okay, I can give her the choice to decide on the ending.

Speaker 2:

And that's when he becomes a lot more like patient with her too, and very much egotistical.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Um, so then back in the 1940s, they are in like class essentially, and they get mail. And you've got mail, sorry. And uh, constance gets a letter and no, not the letter I have this in all caps the letter.

Speaker 2:

Oh sad. What's on the letter? Suzy, the love of her life is gone.

Speaker 1:

Has been perished.

Speaker 2:

Yep has perished almost a week ago too. Yeah, that's what. Like he had been gone for like a week before she got the note and this was like, because her mom told her the letter was from her mom. Oh yeah, I totally forgot that detail that her parents.

Speaker 1:

His parents had told her parents, but nobody had told her. Which is just like I hate their parents so much and she is just hysterical reasonably so.

Speaker 2:

Yep, and they were both in the military, so they like weren't allowed to have emotions, and so they like had to go into a private room, yeah, or else she was gonna be discharged like it's a big thing is that not just so yeah people come and go, another rant for another time yeah, but she was like you need to take her out of the class.

Speaker 1:

And the teacher is trying to be trying to be cool, trying to be sympathetic, but at the same time like this cannot happen. And so she's like I'll let it go, it can't happen again. And scarlet's like it's not gonna happen again. She's like, no, it can't happen again, or else she's going to have to go Because a lot of people die in this industry. You have to be able to deal with it and you're like, yeah, right got it. Her fiance just died for the love.

Speaker 2:

Clearly you've never been in love with anyone, or you would have understood this.

Speaker 1:

She ends up finding out from somebody that Jameson's squad is going to be restationed, and he hasn't told her, and so he gets home and she's like anything to say.

Speaker 2:

He's in 12-0.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and she's been also taking care of Constance for like the past week or whatever, because she's just a mess.

Speaker 2:

So she's at her emotional wit's end here.

Speaker 1:

Yes. And he's like uh, uh, hello, nice to see you. Like, hey, honey, give me a kiss. Like she's not having it. Like I heard today that you're going to be restation. Is that true or is that not true? And he's like it is true, um, but then also. But she finds out that they had requested to go oh yeah, overseas somewhere so he would not see her at all.

Speaker 2:

Happened is when he requested to go because he wanted to go assist with that stuff, and then, uh, he got denied to go to the pacific something, and that's when she was upset. I'm jumping forward.

Speaker 1:

My bad, that's okay anyway, he's getting stationed somewhere else and she's like I don't know if I'll be able to leave constance because she is distraught and rightfully so. Rightfully so, and I don't. I don't know if I can ask her to transfer again, but I'm not gonna leave her by herself. So it's this whole thing. And then present day, noah and Georgia Go to a rock climbing gym, like these are just two.

Speaker 2:

Extremes, I quite literally Don't care.

Speaker 1:

I just don't. Can we get I don't care Count on this episode. But so they go to the rock climbing gym. There's this whole moment of Noah holding the rope while Georgia goes up the thing.

Speaker 1:

It's all so emotionally deep I've never read something so deep actually and she makes it to the top and she feels so accomplished, and then she has to propel back down. And he makes it to the top and she feels so accomplished, and then she has to propel back down and he holds on to the rope and she makes it to safety and I was picturing this being like like a 25 foot, like training wall just to top it all off like um, anyway, so that's a bonding moment with them.

Speaker 1:

And then he's like do you want to hold the rope while I go up? And she's like you would trust me with that. And he's like yeah. And she's like, wow, what is like?

Speaker 2:

I don't know it's like dear diary we trust each other. Oh my god. Um so then?

Speaker 1:

back to the 1940s. Um constance comes over one day and tells scarlet, who has no contact with her parents at this point, that she is to be married to henry she is volunteering as tribute.

Speaker 2:

Yes, now that the love of her life is gone, she wants to get the land that he was on yeah, she wants to hold on to the memories of him and take care of their parents that was really sad.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that part was sad, like the reasoning, because scarlet's pissed like you can't do this, like you've seen what he does to women, like you cannot do this to yourself. And he kind of spoiler alert here he does beat constance like oh yeah he's abusive towards her, yep, and she's like you don't get it.

Speaker 1:

Like again. This is about duty and Alma and the land where Edward had all his memories, or like the lake where they fell in love and would like go swimming, and that land is about to be sold off. So if she doesn't do it which I think is interesting, because he doesn't have money- His parents do, though. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, they're buying their way into this title, correct in a way we wouldn't get it because we don't like come from family, like land, money, that just I don't get it what, what, yeah, um, but so scarlet what?

Speaker 1:

do you mean? Very hysterical about this. Jameson ends up coming home, she's like crying um, constance is like leaving for the day, and scarlet ends up vomiting in the bushes. And jameson's like scarlet like it's okay, like we'll figure it out, and she's like no, you don't understand. And then boing Scarlett's pregnant, which they weren't really planning on getting pregnant while the war was still going on. Also, we're not preventing it. So, yeah, hey, when A and B happen, c comes about.

Speaker 2:

Like did they even really have like birth control back then?

Speaker 1:

Like I don't think birth control was even like really a thing because they have a moment of like when he's showing her the house and he's like this is where a baby would go, potentially. And she's like do you want that? And he's like do you want that? And she's like, yeah, but not right now. And he's like, well, you have to understand that that could happen and it does so they're clearly not.

Speaker 2:

That was her sex education class.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay um, so then back to present day yeah, everything got interesting. Let's go see what noah's doing now okay um, so noah and georgia have this moment where he shows up at the house and she has these pictures everywhere and he's like, oh, what are you looking at? And she's like, oh, I was trying to find pictures for you and I just kind of got lost in it.

Speaker 1:

So he brings her lunch and they sit down and she's like showing him this scrapbook essentially of like her childhood and kind of to her wedding day and beyond, and um, this was interesting the smile fading from her face more and more so like after she got married, and she kind of talks about love and how it can be suffocating and you don't know that it's dead until you're dead and it takes everything from you and it's all very deep dark, gloom, sadness.

Speaker 2:

This guy ruined her life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, depression, depression, toxic relationships yeah, but then he says he uh, you don't deserve to be treated that way by him. And she says, by who? And so this ends up coming to be about she's talking about her mom and how she loves her mom, but like slowly it's killing her inside because her mom treats her horribly, like she's disposable, kind of sort of um. And then they end up saying, you know, he's looking at the desk and she's like, well, why don't you just write in here? I mean, you're right across the door, so why don't you just write in the office? And then they almost kiss, but they don't, because of course not Something. The door rings or something. She gets a package from her grandma, I think.

Speaker 2:

And it has the witch's hat, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So Scarlett's been sending her packages which is just like and this one's for Halloween, and it's a witch's hat, and like a bunch of full-size candy bars For the kids, for the kids, which is cool, so sweet. So then, back to 1940s Scarlett cannot work if she's pregnant, so she's been really trying to hide it. But she's like six months pregnant and her clothes are no longer fitting her.

Speaker 1:

She like finally goes to tell the commanding officer and she's like bitch I know she said I was gonna give you one more week before I said something finally coming to tell you like so I'm pregnant.

Speaker 2:

You're like. I know you haven't had a white claw for four visits.

Speaker 1:

I know something's up um, and this is really really hard for scarlet. I like this is where I started to get emotional on this book. Okay, the moment of scarlet coming home because she's very proud of what she does and it gives her purpose, and things like that. And she does really well when she's taking off her uniform and jameson is there and he's standing in the doorway that was emotional and he's like I have to let her do this, like I can't go and help her.

Speaker 2:

She has to do this for herself, and it was like did you feel like because, like you're a mom and I'm not so this will help. Did you think that it was a good representation of like sacrifices that mothers have to make, like when you it's something that you want, but it still going to impact the shit out of your life, and like the things you want to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think it's more of like an identity thing. Okay so like you're a mom, but you're more than just a mom. That makes sense, but like society-wise it kind of takes over. So like oh, can you go to dinner?

Speaker 2:

oh well, I don't know, I mean I got so and so can you come?

Speaker 1:

yeah, like it's just different, and I think more specifically, back then it was probably even worse because women are expected to do everything they like, couldn't even have bank accounts and stuff for it, so like you. Well, she had to quit her job, like I didn't have to quit my job when I got pregnant, like it. It kind of stripped her of everything at that time she felt was important to her, which nowadays I think it's a little bit different. Like I still work, you know I have I'm do this you know I have.

Speaker 1:

But I also have a lot of support, justin, and like things that she just doesn't have. You know, jameson is gone all the time for his job. She doesn't have that support. Her parents aren't there, so and her? Parents suck sorry, everyone but yes, okay um, but I get, I get what you're saying, but I just think it's a. I don't want to come off like oh, poor victim mode, I had it just as bad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because I'm like, but in that little minute of like, oh, this is what I wanted, but now I'm going to become someone else, like the old me is going away but like, I can't, like I'll never be able to explain this to you unless you, or until unless you experience it.

Speaker 1:

Um, the mind change that happens once you have a kid is insane. I could not care about anything else. I do not care. At the end of the day, I'm coming home to bash and that is my priority everything else, I don't care, I don't give a fuck. And it felt like like for me specifically, which I've always wanted to be a mom, it's not for everybody Spoiler alert.

Speaker 1:

This was something that was very important to me and, like was talked about within like a month of Justin and I dating Do you want kids, yes or no? Do not waste my time. And like once I had Sebastian, it was like, oh, this is what life is Like, this is what I'm here for, so oh, anyway, um, but like I'll never be able to explain that feeling until you'll get it, I get it, bitch, I get it yeah.

Speaker 1:

So anyway, after scarlett, does that jameson like comforts her and she's like it's okay, like this is what we wanted and I want this and I, I need you to know that I want this as hard as it is I'm excited for this baby and he thinks it's a girl and she thinks it's a boy, like the whole time.

Speaker 2:

I love them, like arguing over it. Yeah, during the pregnancy, which was funny, um.

Speaker 1:

So then on one of his days off they end up going into town to get baby things and everything's very rationed so they can only get a few things, but they want to make it like a whole experience, so they go to whatever town.

Speaker 2:

Whatever Babies R Us was back then, yeah I don't know.

Speaker 1:

And they get a few things and as they're walking back to the car, they run into scarlet's parents. Hey, scarlet's dad, the entitlement, pompous ass. It's like he's like that baby is mine like type of vibe and and it's like no.

Speaker 2:

He's the grandparent that comes up and goes how's my baby? And you're like ew.

Speaker 1:

Because he wants that boy to carry on the name.

Speaker 2:

It's his heir, yeah, his heir and she's like I thought you disowned your daughter so technically she's not your daughter, so technically that's not even your grandson. Yeah, this man would hate me.

Speaker 1:

He keeps that's not even your grandson. Yeah, this man would hate me. He keeps saying like right, the, the right, blah, blah, and she's like it's gonna be a stanton, stanton's last name or because she thinks it's a boy.

Speaker 1:

And then at some point jameson kind of steps in. But so at some point jameson has to kind of step in because the dad's crossed the line and he's like this is my kid, look bitch. Yeah, this is my kid and you will respect that and you will not be around him which just made me fall in love with him even more.

Speaker 2:

I was like standing up for her like.

Speaker 1:

So jameson brings scarlet a gift and it is the typewriter yes, which is the typewriter that scarlet santon wrote all her stories on, and she's very excited about it because she writes all these stories and she tells all these stories. And so he thought it would be nice for her, since she's very excited about it because she writes all these stories and she tells all these stories, and so he thought it would be nice for her, since she's going to be home now, to have something to give her purpose. Yes, very thoughtful. Yes, a very, very thoughtful, uh gift. So then halloween comes around.

Speaker 1:

Present day, halloween, noah hangs out he's supposed to like be there through christmas or something right like yeah, by the end of the new year the book is supposed to be finished and, spoiler alert, he ends up asking for an extension so he can spend more time with georgia but she doesn't know about the. She doesn't know that. Um, so halloween comes and it is what it is, and then they have their whole moments of togetherness, and what's the ex-husband's name?

Speaker 1:

they have their whole moments, damien damien uh ends up calling to ask for the movie rights to this newest book, correct? And Noah essentially tells them to tell him to fuck off because he's not giving it to him and he's not going to see the manuscript and he's not going to see anything and he's offering a lot of money to be able to see that. So he thinks he's going to get the money to be able to see that. So he thinks he's gonna get the movie rights to this newest book. But he doesn't realize that the agreement was only if georgia was in the production company, which she is no longer. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, but with him, like standing up to her ex-husband, she's like I can't depend on him, and blah, blah, blah. They kiss.

Speaker 2:

They get good with it. We try to care. We try to care some more.

Speaker 1:

It's a whole thing A snowstorm happens.

Speaker 2:

Surprise, surprise. Should we just wait this out together? I remember one of the parts was like that and you're just like I don't care, Scarlett is pregnant. So then, scarlet is pregnant, um so then scarlet is very pregnant and jameson is going to be gone on his flight. Some extra dangerous mission?

Speaker 1:

yes because, of course and uh, constance comes over to kind of help her out and surprise, surprise she goes into labor, goes into labor and constance like runs down the street to try and get hold of whoever to tell them that scarlet is having the baby, but jameson was already in of course it's already too late.

Speaker 2:

He's like halfway across the narrow sea. They had to send carrier pigeons back then still for communication.

Speaker 1:

But they couldn't get a hold of him. So Scarlett ends up having the baby without him there, because she's a badass which I hated that which also he wanted to be there while she had the baby, which is kind of taboo Because men aren't typically at the time in the delivery room.

Speaker 2:

That was like a woman's place, like they sat in the whatever waiting room and smoked cigars, whiskey yeah, um, but he wanted to be there, but unfortunately he didn't make it, and he was very nervous that he would have to be away at work when this happened. And then it happened.

Speaker 1:

Yes, he was very sweet but he was very proud of scarlet when he did get there and was like you did the damn thing, good job. But it's a, it's a whole sweet moment and like everything's so precious. And it is a boy and they name him William. Yes, yeah, that's correct, they name him William. And then Pearl Harbor happens Like fresh she had what that same day. Howard comes to the house and he says they hit Pearl.

Speaker 2:

Harbor. So what December 7th? Pearl Hartford? I'm pretty sure Something like that. Yes, Get on with your bad self. I'm like I only remembered it because that's also my grandma's birthday. That's how I remember. I know Her name is not Scarlett.

Speaker 1:

I am actually the worst when it comes to history stuff, so I'm just putting that out there. Anything I say about history could be 100% wrong. Just an FYI. But I did a little research on this because I had to comprehend what I was reading.

Speaker 2:

We're like sorry our teachers, it's not your fault. You did a great job.

Speaker 1:

So he's like it's's a whole the moment is ruined because of this, which pissed me off. Um, but so then, uh, back to present day noah and georgia. Noah is like in love with georgia already. I didn't connect, I didn't connect, don't care why. Okay, it's been like a month. All of a sudden you're in love with her. You've never even met I didn't connect, I didn't connect, don't care why. Okay, it's been like a month. All of a sudden you're in love with her. You've never even met this woman in your life.

Speaker 2:

First of all, you can't take her roasting you once and then you're in love with her. Maybe that's just a me thing. Like if you're going to put up with me loving you, you're going to have to handle some roasts and like you can roast me back. Hey, like that's what I like to say, I can take it, I'm flirting, I may cry a little, yeah, so true, you and me like fucking dumbass. How do you think I got?

Speaker 1:

Justin, okay, we were in seventh grade drama class and we were not seventh grade freshman year drama class and we partnered up together and we had to, like, walk around story and do lines roasting each other. So gets, gets the man. If they have a good sense of humor, true, anyway. So they have a moment of like, what is this, what are we doing? And she's like I think we should just call it what it is.

Speaker 2:

What are we?

Speaker 1:

What are we? And he's like what's that? And she says we're just a fling.

Speaker 2:

A book that. And she says we're just a fling, a book till the. Oh yeah, this was kind of funny to me how he's all like waiting for him, for her to tell him how it loves she, and she's like, yeah, so we're just like banging till you're gone and he's like and he decides he needs more time with georgia.

Speaker 1:

So this is where the extension comes into play, um which he never missed a deadline, suzy, but he's like, ah, gonna miss a deadline. Book is finished, by the way, that's where I'm not understanding.

Speaker 2:

I get it, it's part for the book, but like, why the didn't he just go up to her and be like? You don't have to feel the same way as me, but I think there's something here.

Speaker 1:

I want to spend more time because he doesn't want to scare her away but he'll send her up a rock face like so he'll force exposure therapy.

Speaker 2:

But he what? Sorry, it's not for me to understand.

Speaker 1:

It's a book anyway it's not real life for me. Um so he ends up like contacting the editor and is like I need more time. Can you do this for me?

Speaker 2:

And his friend is like Jesus, fucking Christ bro.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sure, sure, great. So then we come to the part where the Eagle crew is denied. Request was denied.

Speaker 2:

You shall not pass To go to.

Speaker 1:

Pearl Harbor. And she is so mad, Granted she just had a baby.

Speaker 2:

This is the part we thought we were talking about a few minutes ago she just had a baby so those hormones postpartum?

Speaker 1:

and she's like, are you joking me? You put in a request to go across the world for at least a year. We just had a baby. This is no longer about you and me, this is about him too, and you need to take that. She just reamed his ass and I was like bang straight. And he apologizes profusely, as he should, as he should, but he's also like my country was hit. Now what do you expect me to do to just, oh, this part?

Speaker 2:

was so sad when she I don't have a country and yeah, like I don't have one and you don't understand how that feels.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, yeah, bro, she had to sacrifice a lot for you.

Speaker 1:

She sacrificed everything.

Speaker 2:

And it always seems like that's just like expected or like not even expected. No one can understand that that would be emotionally hard on a woman, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

All the time, like everything that she's ever known is gone. He technically can't go back to the US because he would be arrested Because at the time that he Treason this is where my research came into play At the time that he went into the war, the US was not a part of the war yet and so he would be considered he jumped the gun. Treason Pun intended For attending or for joining the Eagle Squadron.

Speaker 2:

Because the U for attending or for joining the eagle squadron because the us was not involved in it. The us was like wasn't our idea. Yet you can't just go help people until we decide we're gonna go into a country so then if he were to go back to the us he would be arrested.

Speaker 1:

So they're not even sure if she can get citizenship because of that like stressful because then also they kind of they start talking about scarlet going to the us to get out of the war zones, because they have a baby family right yeah, and his family's the best and they like sent her a package when the baby was born I've pictured like justin's or like a yeah, like, oh they're sweet. Uh, a maid blanket, it was what they sent.

Speaker 2:

Oh, scarlet's family also sent something yeah and he at the end of this silver rattle with other initials on it, like not even the child's actual initials, because they're just because he's a stuck up douchebags yeah, um, but he was at the end of this argument.

Speaker 1:

He asked if he can throw that away, and and she's like, yes, throw it away, like I don't keep secrets from you, that's why I left it here the way I would have like punted it yeah. But so they start talking about her potentially going to the US and taking William with her, Because it is not safe. They have to do what's right for the baby.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the baby.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So an underlying plot here is georgia used to make sculptures, sculptures, yep. And once she got married, uh, shocker she didn't decide that she shouldn't do it anymore. But she ended up purchasing this store in her hometown studio but it's also a store, that's true, and she is having her grand opening of all of her work, finding herself again that she's doing her creative outlet.

Speaker 2:

Sorry, like it's cool, it's hard, I can't do it. It's just, this was so uninteresting and it's her birthday, oh yeah just so for top it all off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and uh, noah's big pusher over the edge to I love you is he flew her mom out for the opening night I get it, but as I was listening to this I'm like that is a bad idea. I don't care how sweet you think you are like then also he flew out his sister and her fan, her husband, to meet georgia. He flew his family, yeah first class, serious like damn um.

Speaker 1:

So that means a lot to her and they're very touchy, feely during this, very much together, but still a fling. And then, right, they go home and he's like I have your birthday present and she's like I told you not to buy me anything and he's like I didn't buy you anything and it ended up being jameson's phonograph, which he found in the shed that he's staying in.

Speaker 2:

I don't know yeah like I was picturing, like yeah, a little tiny house thing, yeah but he found it like tucked away into a closet, and so he brought it out.

Speaker 1:

Everything's fine with it, it's not broken. And so they end up playing the music that was played during the first date Again, and I think at this point he tells her that he's in love with her. I'm sure, and if not it'll be like two lines later, yeah, and then she doesn't say it right away, but then later she does. They're in love. And so then, back to the 1940s. Stuff's really kicking up. There's a lot of air raids that are happening. At this point, constance is showing signs of being abused.

Speaker 1:

black eyes and yeah, scarlet and william are having to hide in bunkers because of all the bombings and it's just becoming very dangerous. So then one day after work, when jameson lands, they're like somebody's here to see you. He needs to see you right now and it is his uncle, vernon, who william's middle name is vernon, so he was named after him and he is also a pilot, but like an older guy yeah, and he was.

Speaker 2:

He was one of those like he was later. He enlisted much later yeah and um he.

Speaker 1:

They end up making a plan for essentially to get scarlet and william out and back to the us, which was cool, because he needs them the uncle wasa really cool guy to safety. Present day they wake up and noah goes into the office and he says what the fuck do you think you're doing? And then Georgia comes and Ava is sitting there and scanning the book. What?

Speaker 2:

The piece of shit. Mom is being a piece of shit, oh my God.

Speaker 1:

And then Ava ends up like spilling the beans of Noah.

Speaker 2:

has finished both books, she tries to, yeah, get out of being in trouble. So the best part is the mom is sending the photos of this to the ex-husband, yeah, oh, because she's surprised him. I was slightly surprised about that, if we're to be honest. I was a little bit shocked because, like I thought, if she knew how many times she's, you know, like been divorced, like she wouldn't, but who she's a shitty mom, of course she'd hurt her child, yeah. And then, yeah, she tries to make noah look bad, which I get it. Noah was stupid for that, but she kind of makes it look like it's so much like he's being very secretive.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she makes. You haven't told like she's gonna get something more out of it yeah, um, so georgia is very mad that noah's finished the book get out. I don't really get this. Like I get he wasn't entirely truthful with you but why are you so?

Speaker 1:

there's no malice behind it, yeah like it's not, like he's submitting his copy and then like not getting money out of this. There's nothing. I really felt. I felt like it was a very big over exaggeration from her. But her whole thing is like again, I can't trust anyone. So, um, she's very mad. She tells him to get out and then that's when he goes. The real love story here is you and me in this office, and we.

Speaker 2:

We were like the audacity of you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So then George, or not George? Sorry, scarlett and William are getting ready to leave, and so she has to pack all their bags and the record player. Hey, this is where stuff starts getting real bad. So we're just going to make it through this together. Just don't look at each other. So jameson tells her you're gonna like finish the episode like this.

Speaker 1:

You need to take the phonograph from my mom, because I told her I would bring it home oh yeah and she's like well, I'm not taking it, because you told her you would bring it back when you made it home safe, because you are going to make it home safe. And so it's this whole moment of like you're not dying, so don't ask me to take it with me. Like that's not fair. And that day William's plane goes down Jameson, not William, jameson's plane goes down, thank you.

Speaker 2:

He got involved in like a. They got surprised.

Speaker 1:

Shootout.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they got surprised by a bunch of German fighters and then they all started fighting. I was picturing the Top Gun shit.

Speaker 1:

They were like all over the place. His tank got hit, his fuel tank.

Speaker 2:

And the window. Now, he was not hit, but yeah, so then he goes down and nobody can find him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so he has like a picture of scarlet and it flew out the window. It flew out and he says it's like his guardian angel. And there it goes, so like now he's no longer saved and that's when I started to cry.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, I knew it.

Speaker 1:

I cried and then he, his friend, is also there and he's like, are you okay, are you okay? And he's like, tell scarlet I love her. And then he gets lost beneath the clouds. And so he, they go, and they tell her. His whole flight crew all 11 of them went and to tell her and can you imagine having like 11 close comrades like that?

Speaker 2:

yeah, on another note, anyway.

Speaker 1:

Um again, I don't have enough social battery for that, so that would be, in all fairness yeah, but they end up telling her and she's like, and this is just the way that she's dealing with it is well, he's just missing in action. You need to go and find him, like, prove it Very much, like hardcore, find him, like do not come back here until you find him. And then Constance is there and she obviously ends up breaking down in front of constance, like how sweet that those sisters are so there for each other.

Speaker 2:

We can't relate.

Speaker 1:

But I mean, you know, we're sisters for each other, we're sisters yeah um, but so that it's all very traumatic and I think for me, like the, the way that she dealt with it is very much how I think I would handle that.

Speaker 2:

I agree no, I think that you are a lot like scarlet in all honesty, like I, personality tough, bad bitch it's true, like and just the way that you would have been like. You know we'll get upset about this later. This is horrible, but right now I'm focusing on they're gonna find him yeah, they have to find him, like he's, he's just missing.

Speaker 1:

It's fine like she's obviously like her heart sinks as soon as that door she saw them all and she counted them and that was like it was.

Speaker 2:

There was only 11.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so then the next day is her day she's supposed to leave and she's and our husband's like.

Speaker 2:

Am I missing an action?

Speaker 1:

and she's like I'm not leaving. Are you out of your mind? Like he he just went down yesterday. Like they're gonna find him, it's okay, like he just he just went down. But she's like it's her way of coping, like she knows in her heart of hearts that he is gone. But then she also kind of like talks to constance about like losing your person and she's like I would feel it if he was gone yeah, that was sad and constant's like I didn't know and it was over a week, like like honey, she's very delicate.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this but she's like you need to pack and you need to still go and they will tell you when they find, when they find him. And she, scarlet, says thank you for saying when and not if and it's like it's so sad it is and um, so then they leaving the bags.

Speaker 2:

They have baby william and they're you're doing so good, you can do this, and they go oh no okay so they're on their way. Now the part that I got confused about because I was audio and adhd and driving were they going to go by plane or by ship? Was this back when you had to get everywhere by ship?

Speaker 1:

they were gonna. They were gonna go by plane because uncle vernon flew the plane, but the ship would take months and they felt like it was more they were going to be more exposed if they took the ship.

Speaker 2:

They were driving to the airport and the sirens started going off the air raid sirens and they realized they needed to make it to a shelter because they left the house where there was a shelter. And now it's like we're on our way to Target, we're in the curbs and there is sirens going off. So they jump out of the car and literally start running with the baby in their arms trying to make it and they get hit Not directly hit, so not that bad, but pretty bad and they both go flying in different directions. Both sisters are separated. The baby is unharmed. That's important.

Speaker 1:

And she's like, like holding him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she like, goes down, like with him and she wakes up. Scarlett comes to and is on all adrenaline realizing you know where's my baby? He's okay. She goes to find her sister. She thinks her sister's gone. They unbury Constance.

Speaker 1:

Constance wakes up, which I I was all like.

Speaker 2:

She lost her husband. I didn't know her sister. She wakes up.

Speaker 1:

We have to take a pause sorry perfect timing, stuff happens, perfect yep so at first she thinks constance dead, and then so, back in present day, george's ex-husband shows up and tries to convince her to give him the movie rights.

Speaker 2:

Ah yes, and isn't this when noah like kind of starts getting sassy with him, with damien?

Speaker 1:

noah. Yeah, well, at this point noah left. He left the country for like six weeks, so he he ends up leaving just entirely.

Speaker 2:

I just wanted to let me know, I want to stop you before we say what happened um, and he, the ex-husband, is like we can get back together.

Speaker 1:

We can be so great. God oh it was the anniversary.

Speaker 2:

That's what it was.

Speaker 1:

He showed up with flowers like audacious yeah, and she's not having any of it and so she's like you forget that the deal was only if I was a part of the production company. You think my gran is that stupid to let you have the rights? You're out of your mind. She never liked you. Yeah, she didn't like you. And um, so then the preliminary publishing kind of of the book because scarlet decides to go with the real version of what happened gets put out and the reviews are horrible. Everyone totally what noah thought was gonna happen, that it was the worst. Like how could you tarnish scarlet's?

Speaker 1:

reputation, like this true story, you fucking idiot, yes, but like hey, he knew what it was gonna be. He put it out anyway because he knew this is what she wanted and he's gonna do what she wants, even if it ruins his career because he loves her, and then, um, she ends up calling adam and is like we gotta do something about this, okay, so then we have. I think it was a package.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she gets a package from her gran.

Speaker 1:

And it has a letter. It has three letters in it. It has some yeah it has some stuff in it, so we get the real story of what happened.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so that's when. So like we're back in today and she just think of the day that she had too after dealing with that, and then kind of the feelings with Noah. And now she gets this letter on her what would be seventh anniversary of this guy, and it's letters from her gran talking about like just in case you guys aren't together anymore, like I'm hoping you have seen the light is kind of what the letter is saying, like this is my like, this is the true story, this and it was like yeah, so constant you're not ready, you think you're ready, you're not so constance is not dead, she wakes up, surprise, surprise yeah, if I start crying.

Speaker 1:

You'll take over here? Ready she wakes up and, um, scarlet is like oh my gosh, I'm so glad you're okay. Yada, yada, yada. And constance looks at her sister and she's like, she's like impaled. That's the way I saw it, girl, you ain't good. She's bleeding profusely and she's like holding william and she like starts to lose it.

Speaker 2:

And so constance takes william from her and she like falls and they're both having that like don't talk about it, you're okay, okay, you're okay, you're okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and she's like you promised you would take care of William with your life, because she's the godmother of the child, and she's like you need to uphold that promise. You need to get him.

Speaker 2:

Out of here.

Speaker 1:

You need to get him to the US, get him out of this war zone. Like jameson, I love you, william, I love you like and it that's so sad. There's like this whole thing of like her and jameson weren't actually separated for that long, because she ends up dying, essentially like what, 12 hours after he does? Yep, in theory, yep allegedly and it's really horrible and sad. This like sob.

Speaker 2:

This was more sad than her losing jameson, to be honest just because of like, get to that part, read it, you'll understand like, yeah, we're just giving you the cliff notes, yeah I yeah, this part was when I was like sending you the videos of like I don't want to finish this, I do not want to finish this.

Speaker 2:

And then you told me too, her next step was like it's not what you think it is. And and I'm like, yeah, I already know what it is. And then the next day I'm like it's not what I thought it was.

Speaker 1:

Because you think the sad part is Jameson's going to die? Yep, because you know early on in the book that Scarlett ends up remarrying a different grandma or Grandpa Brian, or whatever. So Constance, so constant is like well, I gotta take care of her william.

Speaker 2:

So he gets her, him, into the car, drives to the air, grabs her bag now remember they had just been involved in a all this stuff.

Speaker 1:

So she grabs what she thinks is her stuff yeah, and they get to the airfield and vernon has never met scarlet, but it's very well known that Sees the baby Constance and Scarlet look very similar and so she is kind of like but she's all bandaged and stuff Like she's taken some damage from the bombing and he's like, oh, it's so great to meet you and he thinks that she is Scarlet and Constance is like oh, oh, oh, my, my god.

Speaker 1:

Everyone thinks I'm my sister yeah, and then she's like, well, if this is what I have to do to get him to safety, then this is what I have to do.

Speaker 2:

And she also has a light bulb moment when she realizes that her bag went with her unalived sister and so now her piece of shit. Wife beaten husband thinks she's dead.

Speaker 1:

Yep, you get the best of both worlds in this moment. She gets to the us, she decides she is going to be scarlet now to take care of william, because what's going to happen to him if she doesn't like, if she's not allowed?

Speaker 2:

then strangers were going to raise him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and she's like. That cannot happen. I love him. I'm going to take care of him. I told Scarlett and Jameson I would take care of him and I'm going to do it damn it.

Speaker 1:

So she gets all new ID, all new photos. So she is Scarlett Stanton by all US standards. Her piece of shit. Husband thinks that she is dead because she was put into the casualty reports. She does not put jameson as deceased for years and years and years, until william and his wife end up actually getting into a car accident. So they end up passing away, and ava did not.

Speaker 2:

I think they were on their way to pick her up or something and that's why she thinks that her grandmother resented her so much, because and little does she know kind of you know how much that grandmother went through to get that child here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, um, and so, after he ends up passing away, she ends up putting jameson as deceased, finally, and ends up marrying grandpa brian, who was just some guy that rented the cottage from her, and they were in love and he asked her to marry him like a thousand times and she said no until she finally decided and that she could let herself be happy the other detail.

Speaker 2:

She found out that her, the rich husband that she was forced to marry. She found out he died. And then she was like oh yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm free because she's like, by all legal standards, yep, in my brain I'm still married. That's what it was that was the catalyst. Um, so they end up getting remarried and she finally lets herself be in love again, which is so sweet to like channel that lie, live, that lie so thoroughly yeah, wow and then um, so that she dies as scarlet, even though she is constance, which was just a mind blown. I wasn't ready she signs it as constance stanton the letter at the very end and imagine living your life like that.

Speaker 1:

I can't like never being called your name again, again, and to like fight the urge, like yeah, wow, crazy, um, but so then present day, everything's for love. Hunky dory, georgia ends up changing the book when it's actually released into the happy ending one, and noah doesn't realize till he's back in the us and the reviews are so good and everybody calls it like the trick of the century or whatever to like release the bad one.

Speaker 1:

But then actually it's a different story and it's like what and um where noah has been, is he hired a private expedition group essentially to find jameson's remains?

Speaker 2:

all right, we kind of warmed up to know here at the end. All right, he was like he was all right, sweet, and he had. He at this point he had put it together that scarlet was constance because he had been noted like making comments about how the writing style was different and that's why scarlet talked about like like the real scarlet had talked about.

Speaker 1:

She's really good at starting stories, but she's not very good at finishing them. So in my brain, all these stories that have been written have been ones that she had started and then constance ended up finishing because she talked about. I think the endings should be happy and great and lovely and yada, yada, yada. So he ends up finding the plane, but there are no remains.

Speaker 1:

But he does end up finding jameson's wedding ring, so that's kind of confirmation like, oh yeah, and he had landed in the ocean so there was zero chance of survival. That's so sad. So he gives her that closure and then they're in love. She forgives him happily ever after epilogue here she's pregnant. The book's great. I think he has like his new release or something. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, they're happy. She lied about being infertile. She had an iud and then paid off the doctor to say that she was infertile. So good old ex-husband, she just didn't want to have a baby with him. I mean, and then paid off the doctor to say that she was infertile. So good old ex-husband, she just didn't want to have a baby with him. I mean, yeah, which? I felt like that was a little cheap. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I would have lied about being infertile. That's a little harsh, but hey. But I myself did get an IUD to make sure I didn't have a child with people in the past, so I get it have a child with people in the past, so I get it.

Speaker 1:

Gotta protect yourself, girl you're welcome listeners, yeah but anywho, that is the things we leave on this is the roller coaster of devastation.

Speaker 2:

If you want to have yourself a nice wholesome cry right before the holidays when your family makes you cry, yeah, this will be yeah, that the scene where scarlet dies. I like I was not okay that was more upsetting than any, and all like sad love stories there's something about it.

Speaker 1:

the hardest part about it for me as a parent is like she was finally getting william out, like and it did end happening, which is great, and stuff like that, but Jameson died trying to get them out and then Scarlett also died trying to get him out. She was doing what Jameson would have wanted and then she died in the process. Are you fucking kidding me? So upsetting. I hate it. I didn't want to finish it. I loved, loved the book and that's the whole point of it. But yep, emotional damage very much so, anywho, fan cast, fan cast.

Speaker 2:

Fan cast is if we were going to make this a movie or TV show, who would we choose to be the characters?

Speaker 1:

Okay, should we go one for one? Yeah, okay, so let's do Scarlett and Constance at the same time. Okay, okay, you go. First Let me get my Google out.

Speaker 2:

Scarlett Jessica I don't know how to say her last name l-o-w-n-d-e-s from 90210 long days, right, I don't know. Okay, I didn't want to be disrespectful, so I just did what. Oh, I'm like, my constants was alice and brie, okay, from uh like mad men and how to be single um.

Speaker 1:

So my scarlet was amelia clark.

Speaker 2:

Yes, okay, but you know how much I've been on game of thrones and I don't want you to be like, can you pick something that you're not watching? Like I'm sorry she's not hard on me, but I was gonna think that you were gonna be like oh, come on, all right now. I'm glad I didn't, because we would have picked the same people.

Speaker 1:

Hey, that's an excellent I was a danny girl to the extreme when I watched game of thrones oh really like okay, Okay, After that final episode okay, back line here.

Speaker 1:

Back story Monday mornings in the office after Game of Thrones, every Monday morning we would all come out and stand in a circle and talk about the episode. If you did not watch the episode, you had to go to your office. This wasn't for you. You don't want it spoiled, go away. Okay. The day after the finale I came in there so pissed off, Didn't want to talk to anybody. I was so mad and I think they destroyed her character and it was so.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, even the whole, like last season. So I read the books but I haven't watched every episode yet and I was very so like I know what happens okay, don't worry, yeah, but I'm not like. Anyway, the point is I'm frustrated with how her character was portrayed as such a selfish, like dumbass, because she really was more than that and, but she wasn't in the earlier seasons they literally just like took her in the last season and went bad guy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like let's just stupid anyway. So amelia cl Clark was my Scarlett and for Constance I did Lily Collins Pretty. She's gonna have to have contacts, that's okay, but they could be sisters. 100%, 100% I believe it. Georgia who did you do.

Speaker 2:

Adriana Lima. Who's that? The famous Victoria's Secret model? Oh, okay, this one, because she has ridiculously blue eyes. Yeah, she's beautiful, oh God.

Speaker 1:

I did Alexandria Daddario Specifically kind of this look yes, like with the red lips. Yes, yeah, I also feel like she could give away that like ice queen look, but then also like you see her and stuff and like her smile is fantastic and she's very warm yeah, so I felt like that would be good. Um, jameson, mine's a little niche very specific, mine's just weird.

Speaker 2:

And then honestly, on the drive over you were it's just not great yeah, okay, don't love my choice, but I'm here now. So Scott Deckert from he played in Venom, I don't even. I watched that movie, but I didn't. How do?

Speaker 1:

you spell his last name. I'll just show you a picture of him yeah, d-e-c-k-e-r-t.

Speaker 2:

It's fine, it's fine, not great. Yeah, not great. Yeah, not horrible, not great, it's fine.

Speaker 1:

yeah, moving on, you'll laugh at my noah, you're gonna laugh mine is chris evans and captain america, the first avenger I could specifically his military scenes yeah, hey, chris evans, I'm a chris evans girly for sure, but like this picture, this is off pinterest, but this picture yeah good like yeah and he's, so I'm actually like I wouldn't swoon if this yeah, I talk a big game over here, but um, okay, who's your noah, who's you know?

Speaker 2:

jake gillinghall, because we needed somebody kind of douchey.

Speaker 1:

For Noah yeah. Dye the hair, add the tattoos. Okay, I definitely gave him more credit than you did. I did Justin Baldoni, who Baldoni From it Ends With Us. Oh, also from Jane the Virgin. Okay, but like specifically his Jane the Virgin. Okay, but like specifically his jane. The version look like that's noah for me, okay, but he also has a very like, sweet, sensitive side to him which that actor does a good job, of which?

Speaker 1:

I think noah would be good with okay um, did you cast anyone else? Nope, okay, I did gran. Okay, um, and I did ell Burstyn. Yeah, little lady blue eyes. Yep, wasn't married to that, but anywho, that was my fan cast. Final thoughts Excellent.

Speaker 2:

It was really good.

Speaker 1:

This was my first like make you cry book too, so We've been looking for it, though, like I feel like almost every month we go, we need, we need a good cry, yeah, and so finally we were like there we go. Yep.

Speaker 2:

Rebecca yarlow said here yeah, I would recommend it to anyone that likes like emotional love stories and stuff and like, yeah, I just really liked it I did too, turns out. I like wartime books I won't ever read it again, but I like. No, I'm not a big rereader of books.

Speaker 1:

I've met more and more people that do and I'm like, yeah, I know the story, I'm good, I don't know, and then people come for me like, yeah, but you used to re-watch the movies all the time.

Speaker 2:

I'm like so does every fucking toddler like on this planet?

Speaker 1:

yeah not so much as an adult. Yeah, yeah, mm, that's a lie. It's about little women time and I'll be watching that, probably religiously. So, okay, I love little women. That's funny. So good, laser tag and little women yeah, okay, this is a great one. Get it, girl. My final thoughts Turns out. I like wartime books.

Speaker 2:

Would have never thought that I'll bring you all my grandpa's World War II books now that we know you're so into history.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm horrible at history. This doesn't make any sense, but I think it's just the intensity of it, like the bombing and the did they make it out? That kind of things, I think just get me antsy and then I end up really enjoying the book. But it was good. Rebecca Yarls is good at making you cry. I'll say that. So, yeah, anywho, I think that's it for my final thoughts. I'd recommend it. I'd say it's appropriately hyped, correct? Yeah, I thought it was really good. So, anywho, yeah, okay, like, yeah, I thought it was really good, so, anywho, yeah, okay, like You're done. Subscribe, share, follow, please, all the same Comment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, even if you're going to roast me, come on, just something.

Speaker 1:

I always feel like, because I watch a lot of podcasts on YouTube helps the algorithm guys For real though. Alrighty, bye, bye. Written and performed by Susie and Kylie, produced and edited by Connor Luther and filmed and recorded at the SDF Collective.

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